• MF_COOM [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    These are the exact same idiotic liberals who argued that “Black Lives Matter” and “Defund the Police” were poorly chosen slogans in 2014 and 2020. Time is a flat circle rust-darkness

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        Abolish is really extreme. Crime is too rampant to do that. You should really make calls for defunding the police, I could support something like that.

        Gives more money to the police

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          I want multiple independent studies into lowering crime in relation to lowering lead exposure in American society.

          Boomers would claim it’s being tougher on crime. Well, that’s obviously not true on the face otherwise we’d be crime free with our bloated ass cop budgets.

          Maybe some especially Nazi-like boomers would claim it was the war on drugs which reduced “undesirables” out roaming around.

          I’m saying this partially sarcastically, but I would also like to know what happened to drive crime down. Violent crimes especially. Material conditions didn’t improve during the 1980s to now, so that seems ruled out. Cops haven’t become less violent. Cops numbers are the same. Guns were never banned. Media is just as violent.

          I dunno, it is interesting to consider. Was it really fucking lead exposure?! Maybe someone has a better answer. Preferably from a Marxist (ie correct) viewpoint. All the libs sources say “mass imprisonment! Better economy!” The first is just dog-ass wrong. The second is also not true for the entirety of America, but also true for basically no one since mid 1990s-2001 and from 2008-now it’s been on a plummeting path down.

          I blame lead-huffing boomers.

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            America legalized abortion and banned leaded gas around the same time. Both were credited with lower crime and violence rates in the following decades. Looking at other countries that did not do both so close together it becomes a lot clearer that both made us safer.

            I’d also argue that being further removed from WW2 vets and cold warriors with severe PTSD and government mandated drug addictions generally help. Last bit it decidedly my opinion.

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              Abortion and by extension or related to it birth control pill (and later methods) is an interesting thing I hadn’t considered.

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                It took someone pointing it out for me to consider reproductive choice being related societal violence even though I knew choice was better for societal economic outcomes.

                Given the shift to confront, stop, and treat all forms of childhood abuse rather than ignore it also had to help. During the satanic panic the administrations stance was to blame mothers for failing to take care of their husbands as the root cause of childhood abuse. They had the data that showed abuse was linked to poverty more than anything else but it was cheaper to blame women. We’re still not in a great place when dealing with childhood abuse but we’re better than that and it has to have done something.

          • Spongebobsquarejuche [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            The group of American boomers I have in my vicinity is just the worst example of every American stereotype. They’re scared of crime which is rampant, xenophobic, racist, and unwilling to listen to people younger then them. Double down when confronted.

            Its all like,

            The TV is real.

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              Well lead already has a known correlation with violence (I forget why exactly, but it’s a thing). So reduced exposure would logically make sense to see a reduction in violence.

              I dunno if microplastics are correlated with violence. From what I remember (and I’m too lazy to look) it causes a bunch of issues like “peepee no work” and maybe cancer and other genetic damage. Not sure about making people more prone to violence though.

              Maybe the mixture of no “rage fuel” from lead plus all the males’ testes collectively shriveling like prunes due to microplastics created generations of soyboys 🤔 (the Heritage foundation can DM me for payment info if they wanna run this conspiracy theory.)

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                I read that there were attempts to test the effects of microplastics on humans, but we cannot truly do any research on this, because we cannot find a control group.

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                  Congratulations on somehow being one of the most depressing things I’ve thought of today

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    Germany has just declared that all versions of “From the river to the sea” constitute hate speech.

    At the same time, the second most important guy in the Bavarian state government is somebody who allegedly brought a holocaust celebrating leaflet to school as a kid (i’m saying “allegedly” because he claims the leaflet was written by his brother, he admits that he had it in his school bag, and it is full of cheer for gassing Jews). This came to light about two weeks before the Bavarian elections. His party got almost 50% more votes than in the previous election. Recently, the same guy has complained a lot about “imported antisemitism”. Always makes him sound as if he’s saying “immigrants are taking away our jobs”.

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      I just can’t wait for the Nazis to fully be back in power in Germany, and the left/pro-Palestine side being blamed for it. Because our advocacy for Palestine is what forced people to vote for Hitler Mussolini Franco Jr Jr.

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        Yeah i just hope i can make it to Ireland when that happens, and that they do not murder too many of my friends. Seems unlikely tho, people here are animals. The allies should not have allowed Germany to continue existing after WW2, that’s the one thing the Antideutsche idiots got right.

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          People shit on the French and the Treaty of Versailles at the end of WW1 as one of the precursors of WW2, I shit on it because it didn’t went far enough, should have gone back to the HRE and one thousand and a half german states, principalities and free cities

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    This vibes with the most recent chapo ep, where they observed that everyone seems to think the problems they face in getting their political agenda advanced all come down to messaging. We’re all just advertisers for our political brand, no one knows how to actually do politics.

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      I wouldn’t say messaging is completely meaningless, certain phrasings resonate more with the targeted populace than others. The problem is thinking of the TPTB as a targeted populace that can be swayed with the right combo of words. Power and money dictate things in their world, not a way with prose.

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    Likud founding charter: “between the sea and the Jordan there will be only Israeli sovereignty”

    Shaq_sleep.jpg

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    Oh when people use that slogan it makes me think of how bad it would be if there was another future genocide and ethnic cleansing between the Mediterranean and the river Jordan. I’m totally on board with the genocide and ethnic cleansing that is currently happening in the same place, but can you imagine how bad it would be if there was another one in the future? Holy fuck that would be so terrible

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    If you don’t like my slogan then tell me a better one. Now I can repeat it back to you and you will agree with me right? dean-smile

    Or or or or or you the reader could have just made some effort to do that yourself instead of (Skateboard trick down staircase with rake meme) stairs -ing our slogan into something antisemitic.

    In the classrooms I work in we call this “active listening”