• zefiax@lemmy.world
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    Ok? And? They aren’t a charity and don’t owe you free video hosting services.

    EDIT: I find it hilarious that point out the fact that you aren’t entitled to free hosting services is getting down voted. Lmao how old are the people here?

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      Dude they sell our data to advertisers and big data for profit. The least they can do is provide some services for us for the amount of analytics they collect from us on a daily basis.

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        Dude, they ARE the advertiser. That’s Google’s main business. They have no incentive to export ANY of your account data to 3rd parties. Business tell them what groups of people to advertise to, and their systems handle the rest. They’re open about how it all works.

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        As someone who’s actually worked in this industry, your data isn’t enough to pay for video hosting services to the scale youtube provides. Youtube makes up a significant chunk of all network traffic in the world. It costs money.

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            No i am not. But I am happy to support actual content creators and the platform that they host on and gets them the most views because I spend more time on YT than I do on any other streaming platform.

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                They pay content creators more than any other platform to my understanding. I think the exception is kik (kick?) The streaming platform.

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                  Too bad you constantly have to be worried about dumb policy changes that can affect your older videos which can mean cutting off those revenue sources

                  Also I’ve never seen another platform that demonetizes content as much as YouTube does.

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                    Both very fair points. But, there is no other platform that even compares for real.

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      They were already being paid and profitable, both from direct cash and ad revenue, but that doesn’t ever seem to be enough.

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        You are free to disagree with their pricing and cancel a subscription if you have one. That’s how the free market works.

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          “Free market works” is by itself a very questionable statement.

          But there sure are some more options beyond that. Although some people think we shouldn’t be free to pick them.

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            You are free to pick w.e you want. That doesn’t make someone actually paying for a decent platform a corporate shill.

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              Our definitions of “decent” are definitely different. But this is not just about what you choose to do, it’s about all the fingerwagging people do at people who don’t believe this is worth paying (even more) for.

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                The only finger wagging going on is people calling people corporate shills for actually paying for a service.

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                  Then you need to look better because you are down a thread pointing out how people are getting downvoted and ragged on for suggesting ad blocking options.

                  I find it hilarious that point out the fact that you aren’t entitled to free hosting services is getting down voted.

                  Actually nevermind. Just look at the mirror. You really are talking of Google like it’s a struggling charity.

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                    Then you need to look better because you are down a thread pointing out how people are getting downvoted and ragged on for suggesting ad blocking options.

                    No I am a thread calling people corporate shills for disagreeing with people saying we should all be pirating.

                    Actually nevermind. Just look at the mirror. You really are talking of Google like it’s a struggling charity.

                    It doesn’t matter how rich google is, it doesn’t owe you video hosting services. It’s not a charity. You can disagree with their pricing and you can find another platform if you like. But services cost money and just because a company has money through other sources doesn’t mean they need to subsidize all their products.

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                  Would just like to interject; while I agree with what you’re saying, and yes, lots of people think an amazing service should be free, which is wrong… But YouTube/Google is now 100% beholden to their shareholders, and this, plus the last couple of price rises, is gouging to make some millionaires richer and is fucking despicable

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                    That’s for consumers to decide. If people still pay for it and think it’s worth their money, then they aren’t really gouging, they were just under priced. If people don’t and start cancelling their subscriptions, they have over priced it and now need to bring the price back down. For me personally, Netflix is the one teetering on that point, YT isn’t there yet.

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      And I don’t owe them a subscription if I don’t agree with the value they’ve placed on it. Free market, baby. 👍

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          You seem oddly offended at the idea people wouldn’t lol. I don’t know why you’re taking this so personally.

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            No I just think it’s stupid to call people who would pay for a service a corporate shill. I have no issue with someone who doesn’t think a subscription is worth it. Maybe read the whole thread first next time.

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      No but I’m not going to pay Google for anything. It’s obscene to give them even more money.

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        Whether you think that service is worth it or not is up to you.

        But don’t act like you have some moral high ground here and that people who are actually paying for a service that you are stealing from and a service that actually shares revenue with it’s content creators and encourages independent creators are just corporate shills.

        Some of us are adults and realize things cost money and not entitled children that expect everything for free.

        • dezmd@lemmy.world
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          And some of us are adults that don’t have your innate need to wield your moral high ground like a smug pedantic asshole.

          • zefiax@lemmy.world
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            I am not the one calling anyone who isn’t pirating a corporate shill.

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              And yet that’s obivously not what this thread’s context was before you started self-jerking to moral superiority.

              Have some self awareness.

              This isn’t a Wendys Drive Thru.

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                Here, since you have difficulty following, let me copy where the original thread started.

                The amount of downvotes on comments trying to help people not get price gouged and comments supporting these subscription price increases shows me just how many corporate shills are actually out there. No wonder these corps keep getting away with this bullshit.

                I am not the one who started the moral superiority, I just disagreed at being called a “corporate shill” before a bunch of insecure assholes started losing their shit.

                Maybe try having self awareness yourself before suggesting it to someone else.

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                  Self inserting as a main character to claim you’ve been attacked so you can shill your moral superiority is the cherry on top of your bullshit sundae.