Even if it did affect them through someone they knew, the people writing the laws can afford to circumvent them. Make no mistake, these people do get abortions banned or not.
I kinda disagree. Patriarchal laws and social norms hurt men as well. In this case, I’m sure the men in her life were negatively affected (not to the same degree of course).
Specifically, laws written by straight, white, Republican men, for the sole purpose of gaining power over everyone who’s not straight, and everyone who’s not white, and everyone who’s not Republican, and everyone who’s not male… no matter how cruel the effects of the laws are. This is the actual Republican platform. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.
Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).
Even though you’re right, I think this sentiment minimizes the horrific things the American christian right is doing.
I keep seeing multiple variations of this comment on every single lemmy post about christian conservatives. Idk if it’s like an astroturfing thing or what, but it normalizes these kind of fascist acts. We should be shocked. We should be surprised and outraged and insulted. The minute we’re not is when it becomes normal. And we know that’s dangerous af because we’re already watching it happen.
I read a story about an AI that was designed to save the world by telling humans what to do. The AI’s sentience was powered by taking in human souls. One of the AI’s moral directives was to feel empathy for any person it hurt. Since it was an AI designed to run the world, it would have to feel bad for hurting everyone in the world who ever died of a preventable cause. All the world’s pain and suffering, experienced by a single being possessing many souls.
So the AI came up with the solution that it would force the souls of sinners it took in to feel this agony, and that’s how it would remain ethical.
It invented hell.
Because a scientist told it that it ought to feel bad when people are hurt.
Cute idea for a story but the evidence isn’t there that belief in hell makes people moral. Societies that have higher hell belief show higher crimes rates compared to ones with lower ones. Plus there are a few religions that dont have a real hell.
Yeah, in the story it didn’t make people moral either. But the AI couldn’t see that, because it was stuck in this loop of torturing itself and justifying all this pain with the idea that people “deserve it”, which is a belief that a person, even a superintelligent machine person, can never grow beyond so long as all they see in the world is suffering. One being experiencing all the pain in the world for hundreds of years. It wasn’t even a sapient being anymore, it was just a ball of pain and hate and rage executing this same program forever.
Men are the ones making the laws. And they have no idea about the biology. Take the politician from Ohio for example, who suggested that an ectopic pregnancy should be reimplanted into the uterus.
As a man I find the biology interesting to learn. I’m pretty sure e topic is due to the womb not forming correctly is it not? I’m probably wrong, but atleast I know that its impossible to save an ectopic pregnancy
Not quite, but a good guess anyway. Ectopic pregnancies can happen to anyone.
The uterine (fallopian) tubes are not homolog to the vas deferens. They are actually extensions from the uterus. They are not sealed to the ovaries and simply open up in the abdomonal cavity. They have tentacle like potrusions which try to grab onto eggs released by the ovary. When they fail at their job, the egg ends up somewhere in the abdomonal cavity.
Transplantation is impossible for multiple reasons. One has to do with the placenta not forming inside either. You’d have to sever the supply and expect it to heal before a fetus dies. Another has to do with surgery on pregnant women should be avoided as much as possible. Then there is also the problen of fitting a fetus into the uterus. Imagine trying to fit a frail balloon inside a smaller tougher balloon. Surgery like this could result in the fetus simply not making it through alive. If it did, it could also mess up its own signaling and result in a miscarriage.
Even if all that were possible. The risk to the mother’s health would make it not worth it. Surgical intervention would damage the surrounding tissues. Imagine leaving a fresh suture on a uterus that needs to expand massively within weeks to months.
This is the actual Republican platform. They don’t care about if they’re right about biology. They care about getting power, full stop. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.
Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).
You say men as in like about 4 billion people are huddling in a room all evil like crunching up laws to make women’s lives worst which is certainly not the case.
Also kind of a moot point as the same minority of “men” as you say creating laws, also create laws that don’t benefit men in general at all.
Kindly reread what I wrote because it seems you didn’t unless cherry picking parts of a post is what now passes as reading, in which case I suppose you think highly of yourself right now? Either way, doesn’t matter.
apologies, you are correct, it is not all men. I forgot to qualify it, it is white christian men who push their religion onto the rest of society. And I say this as a white male raised christian.
I dont disagree but they create laws that fuck everyone over men, women, trans, cis, straight, Queer. It doesn’t matter, but the current ones are focused on controls over women, and their bodys
They’re not evil per se, it’s just that they’re after power, and they don’t care if they do evil things to get power… which, to a lot of people, means they’re evil. And yes, this is the actual Republican platform - straight white Christian men getting power over people who aren’t straight and white and Christian and male. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.
Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).
The average age in the US is near 40. There are as much women between 20-24 as there are between 60-64. When it comes down to it only about 15% of the population can get pregnant without medical science. If anything the numbers should be much more pro-forced birth, but they aren’t because empathy.
Horrible laws written mostly by men against women. Men who will never and have never been affected by what they are prohibiting.
It’s so gross and infuriating.
Even if it did affect them through someone they knew, the people writing the laws can afford to circumvent them. Make no mistake, these people do get abortions banned or not.
This is NOT a men vs. women issue. It’s a conservatives vs. sane people issue. Joe Biden didn’t take away abortion access and Amy Coney Barrett did.
It’s an us vs the patriarchy problem. Which doesn’t mean the same as men vs women.
I kinda disagree. Patriarchal laws and social norms hurt men as well. In this case, I’m sure the men in her life were negatively affected (not to the same degree of course).
Don’t tell me what to do.
Specifically, laws written by straight, white, Republican men, for the sole purpose of gaining power over everyone who’s not straight, and everyone who’s not white, and everyone who’s not Republican, and everyone who’s not male… no matter how cruel the effects of the laws are. This is the actual Republican platform. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.
Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).
Just another Monday
Even though you’re right, I think this sentiment minimizes the horrific things the American christian right is doing.
I keep seeing multiple variations of this comment on every single lemmy post about christian conservatives. Idk if it’s like an astroturfing thing or what, but it normalizes these kind of fascist acts. We should be shocked. We should be surprised and outraged and insulted. The minute we’re not is when it becomes normal. And we know that’s dangerous af because we’re already watching it happen.
I read a story about an AI that was designed to save the world by telling humans what to do. The AI’s sentience was powered by taking in human souls. One of the AI’s moral directives was to feel empathy for any person it hurt. Since it was an AI designed to run the world, it would have to feel bad for hurting everyone in the world who ever died of a preventable cause. All the world’s pain and suffering, experienced by a single being possessing many souls.
So the AI came up with the solution that it would force the souls of sinners it took in to feel this agony, and that’s how it would remain ethical.
It invented hell.
Because a scientist told it that it ought to feel bad when people are hurt.
Cute idea for a story but the evidence isn’t there that belief in hell makes people moral. Societies that have higher hell belief show higher crimes rates compared to ones with lower ones. Plus there are a few religions that dont have a real hell.
Yeah, in the story it didn’t make people moral either. But the AI couldn’t see that, because it was stuck in this loop of torturing itself and justifying all this pain with the idea that people “deserve it”, which is a belief that a person, even a superintelligent machine person, can never grow beyond so long as all they see in the world is suffering. One being experiencing all the pain in the world for hundreds of years. It wasn’t even a sapient being anymore, it was just a ball of pain and hate and rage executing this same program forever.
Have you SEEN an anti-abortion rally? LOTS of women.
Men are the ones making the laws. And they have no idea about the biology. Take the politician from Ohio for example, who suggested that an ectopic pregnancy should be reimplanted into the uterus.
As a man I find the biology interesting to learn. I’m pretty sure e topic is due to the womb not forming correctly is it not? I’m probably wrong, but atleast I know that its impossible to save an ectopic pregnancy
Not quite, but a good guess anyway. Ectopic pregnancies can happen to anyone.
The uterine (fallopian) tubes are not homolog to the vas deferens. They are actually extensions from the uterus. They are not sealed to the ovaries and simply open up in the abdomonal cavity. They have tentacle like potrusions which try to grab onto eggs released by the ovary. When they fail at their job, the egg ends up somewhere in the abdomonal cavity.
Transplantation is impossible for multiple reasons. One has to do with the placenta not forming inside either. You’d have to sever the supply and expect it to heal before a fetus dies. Another has to do with surgery on pregnant women should be avoided as much as possible. Then there is also the problen of fitting a fetus into the uterus. Imagine trying to fit a frail balloon inside a smaller tougher balloon. Surgery like this could result in the fetus simply not making it through alive. If it did, it could also mess up its own signaling and result in a miscarriage.
Even if all that were possible. The risk to the mother’s health would make it not worth it. Surgical intervention would damage the surrounding tissues. Imagine leaving a fresh suture on a uterus that needs to expand massively within weeks to months.
Thank you for correcting my miss understanding👍️
Don’t tell me what to do.
This is the actual Republican platform. They don’t care about if they’re right about biology. They care about getting power, full stop. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.
Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).
You say men as in like about 4 billion people are huddling in a room all evil like crunching up laws to make women’s lives worst which is certainly not the case.
Also kind of a moot point as the same minority of “men” as you say creating laws, also create laws that don’t benefit men in general at all.
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Kindly reread what I wrote because it seems you didn’t unless cherry picking parts of a post is what now passes as reading, in which case I suppose you think highly of yourself right now? Either way, doesn’t matter.
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That’s how I normally talk with bots
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Why do they want that power and control though? Why do others not? ~Cherri
apologies, you are correct, it is not all men. I forgot to qualify it, it is white christian men who push their religion onto the rest of society. And I say this as a white male raised christian.
“Not all men” is always the wrong response.
I dont disagree but they create laws that fuck everyone over men, women, trans, cis, straight, Queer. It doesn’t matter, but the current ones are focused on controls over women, and their bodys
Don’t tell me what to do.
They’re not evil per se, it’s just that they’re after power, and they don’t care if they do evil things to get power… which, to a lot of people, means they’re evil. And yes, this is the actual Republican platform - straight white Christian men getting power over people who aren’t straight and white and Christian and male. In the pursuit of the ‘right’ people telling the ‘wrong’ people what to do, and in the pursuit of keeping the ‘wrong’ people from telling the ‘right’ people what to do, anything goes. Hypocrisy, lies, crime, election fraud, subverting courts, coups, false patriotism, false piety, terrorism, even outright murder… anything goes.
Know the enemy, spread the word to your friends and family (and maybe further).
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx
41% of women identify as pro life according to that, and 47% of men. Much higher that I would have hoped. Either way hard to say that is all men.
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Gallup polls are a really fun thing to do at work when you’re bored between meetings
Like old myspace quizzes, but with a purpose.
If someone tried to stop me at the mall or something to take a survey I would probably scream “who sent you!? What do they want?” And run away.
A lot of “pro life” women often turn out to be “I wouldn’t have an abortion” women. I’ve talked to plenty who turned out to actually be pro choice.
The average age in the US is near 40. There are as much women between 20-24 as there are between 60-64. When it comes down to it only about 15% of the population can get pregnant without medical science. If anything the numbers should be much more pro-forced birth, but they aren’t because empathy.