• grue@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Vaping is actually very helpful and it’s probably helped a lot of people stop smoking.

    Being marginally less unhelpful than some other very unhelpful thing is still objectively unhelpful.

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      1 year ago

      Marginally is a massive understatement. Maybe in 50 years we’re going to discover that it causes some crazy side effects, but in comparison to smoking it’s like having a hamburger once a week compared to three a day.

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        1 year ago

        The point is, its amount of helpfulness is still negative, not positive.

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          For someone who is a smoker and otherwise would not be able to quit its helpfulness as immensely positive.

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            1 year ago

            For every smoker vaping helps, it also tempts probably at least one person to start using who didn’t before. Therefore, it is 1000% indisputably negative and everybody trying to make excuses for it is a goddamn enabler.

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              For every person who makes up bs statistics, there’s a 1000% increase in the number of sad kittens. It’s indisputably negative.

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            1 year ago

            It is extremely 1000% true that vapes ARE IN FACT A NEGATIVE for TEMPTING NON-SMOKERS TO START VAPING.

            Now quit lying!

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        1 year ago

        95% harm reduction means 5% harm is left, by fucking definition!

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        1 year ago

        Yeah don’t let perfect be the enemy of good etc.

        Because Lemmy has a relatively small user base bad takes can take up a lot of a thread. Normally those silly voices would be hidden away. By replying to them lots we let them take up more of the thread space. I’m guilty of it too, but after scrolling down I think we should just ignore that person.