• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.mlOP
    423·
    1 year ago

    I hope that words dies from our lexicon, what a terrible practice, shutting down discussion when it is the first result on google.

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
      271·
      1 year ago

      The issue of necroing old threads is All the participants of the conversation are gone, and if they do happen to still be around, they’ve lost all the context in which they were discussing. It’s a way of getting the final word in.

      If you want to have a new relevant discussion start a new thread. Then people who want to get up to date on the current discussion don’t have to read the whole backlog. Which isn’t relevant because if it’s been 3 years since the last comment, people don’t want to read 600 messages to get to that point.

      Then, and only then, if you want to improve the Google search results, you can go to the necrothread and post a link to the new thread saying the discussions moved. I would still avoid doing that even. Google SEO is Google’s domain, Google’s problem.

      But if your goal is to get into the Google search results, then you’re not really serving the purpose of the forum, you’re not really talking to the members of the forum.

      But none of these are hard rules, politeness conventions. It would be Nice if threads got auto locked after a period of inactivity.

      I think the reason you got your community warning, is you necroed four threads at the same time

      • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.mlOP
        111·
        1 year ago

        The problem with closing threads is that now all the people in future will face a wall. Even if they’d create a new thread, that thread will only be visible to people who look in the forum and in chronological order.

        Compared to the people on google, which is where everyone is, the people on the forum are a rounding error to zero.

        Google does not host conversations (thank god, for now), so there needs to be a place for those hundreds of millions of people to find each other.

        And more often than not, they find themselves on a closed old thread, unable to talk to one another.

        Old style forum shutdown more discussion that they have ever hosted and they don’t even realize it.

        Old style forum are one of the worse information choke point of the entire internet.

        This is why reddit has become the center of the internet and why putting “reddit” at the end of your search is so effective.

        But now reddit is going to die and it doesn’t look like there’s going to be another “center” of the internet.

        • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
          13·
          1 year ago

          By your own words you were posting in somebody’s forum, but you did not care about participating in the forum, you are just using their forum as a form of Google SEO.

          That makes you a bad faith actor, and the moderators were correct remove your content from the forum. You did not genuinely want to participate, grow, or be a member of their community.

          • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.mlOP
            112·
            1 year ago

            I absolutely do not care AT ALL about that forum, the only reason why I was even there is because they were the most relevant link for “security key steam login”
            Just like I absolutely do not care, at all, not even at little bit about “https://lemmy.ml/c/steam”, this is just where the discussion is happening at this present moment.

            • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
              13·
              1 year ago

              Then don’t be surprised when moderators remove you when you don’t want to actually be a member of a community. The forums are there for the community. They’re not there for a Google SEO

                • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
                  4·
                  1 year ago

                  It comes down to what people’s goals are: people run a forum, a discussion platform, because they want to see a community thrive. They want to see people interact. They want to be part of that interaction. Either through social means, or special interest, or aligned goals. They want a community.

                  Moderation fits into those goals, because it keeps the conversation relevant to the community that is being grown. Moderators are curators of a garden.

                  The internet is filled with totally unmoderated content, that would be your random blogger website that Google also indexes. The reason there’s value in the communities is because of the moderation, because of the focus, because of being kept on topic, because of the spam removal. That’s why Google sees those results as more relevant. That’s why you want to be there.

                  Usenet and blogs exist right now, without moderation… you could use them