• nivenkos@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Why not just leave it up to the users? Maybe put a warning?

    Why does the government have to ban everything and treat us like children?

    • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
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      5 hours ago

      Because most people reason like children and act like children.

      Had one dude buy a bunch of those none refillable vapes. Ran around with 3 of them and talked about that the government should ban them because people like himself throw them in the woods when done. That is a real person.

      • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 hours ago

        often in cases like this there is no real personal responsibility involved, and your disdain stems from a lack of empathy.

        nicotine is a strongly addictive chemical and lots of users have active addictions. in many locales and markets disposable vapes are increasingly becoming the cheapest or only way to scratch that itch, in addition to americans being propagandized for years into believing that vaping in general is somehow a healthier way to deal with your nicotine addiction. either way vaping is heavily pushed on nicotine addicts in america to such a point that i genuinely am not so certain personal responsibility factors into the equation anymore. it’s very similar to opium in china during the century of humiliation or the war on drugs or something - just a clearly systemic problem spurred by greedy people against the poor that is justified to other poor people through fallacious moral reasoning.

        the guy you mentioned… knows the obvious point that buying disposables is contrarian to his opinion. that doesn’t invalidate his beliefs. he’s an addict, not necessarily a hypocrite. instead of being crabs in a bucket and tearing down the people who already agree with you why don’t you try and point people’s anger rightfully towards big tobacco companies who managed to swindle the world into picking up the nasty habit again in the name of avarice. those people hurt you, me, and the guy in your story. they deserve you being mad at them, not this rando you mention.

        • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
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          4 hours ago

          Nope he is a fucking idiot.

          Nice rant but this was about him throwing it into the environment while saying the government should ban those vapes so he stops throwing them in the woods.

          I understand that you didn’t get it with first reading because it is completely nuts so the brain goes to something more reasonable.

          But I agree with the gist of what you are saying.

          • jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            4 hours ago

            haha lmfao yeah i’m kind of super busy in the mornings - i did misread you in passing, sorry. appreciate the heads up friend