then ask a friend or a random person on the street about it. “easy for me” does not mean it is easy for the average person. the average person is lost in the settings of their phone, and they rarely turn on the desktop anymore, if they have one

I’m a software engineer, and am pretty privvy to self-hosting in docker, and hosting a matrix server + element has easily been the hardest service I’ve ever deployed. Most of my experience is in personal cloud/media streaming, so maybe I’m just doing the easy ones, but the matrix docker deployment is really unrefined compared to other services