• livus@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        24
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        1 year ago

        It would be mathematically impossible for them to have elected Hamas since 50% of them are 18 and younger, and the last election was held over 17 years ago.

      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        1 year ago

        You do realize this is advocating for genocide - the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group.

        • Andy@slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          1 year ago

          I think at this point, the genocide is in progress. Like the caregivers in this article, what we’re discussing is triage.

          I think it’s unconscionable to evacuate the Gaza strip, because we all know that the intention is to never allow the refugees to return. But I would like the Palestinians of Gaza to have the option to choose whether to survive in exile or die in their homes.

          I believe that the Palestinian identity can survive in a diaspora. But that’s all academic. These people deserve the option to escape, even regardless of what it means for the future of their ethnic group. It’s a painful choice, but it should be there’s.

          • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            14
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            1 year ago

            If some decide to stay, what happens to them? Does the world condemn them to death because it’s too problematic to deal with? Does the world force them at gunpoint? Israel has the power to stop this, it’s the easier path.

          • prole@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            But I would like the Palestinians of Gaza to have the option to choose whether to survive in exile or die in their homes.

            Oh wow, how magnanimous of you.

          • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            20
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            1 year ago

            It’s 2.2 million people. It’s a logistical nightmare. Any country/countries that take them in will have a drain on their resources. They will need aid. Or, just spitballing here, Israel could just stop.

            • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              10
              ·
              1 year ago

              And that should happen with them until Israel listens to reason and stops? Because if they stay in Gaza more will die.

              It’s 2.2m or 2.3m people. Remember Syria? That was 5 millions leaving the country so cut the crap about it being impossible.

              • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                12
                arrow-down
                5
                ·
                1 year ago

                I didn’t say it was impossible, it’s impractical. The easier solution is for the world to pressure Israel to stop the bombing.

                • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  You’re still dodging the issue.

                  What. Happens. In. The. Meantime?

                  They won’t stop in the next 5 minutes or the next hour or the next day. What do you do to protect the people until the bombing stops?

                  How many Ukrainians refugees got sent to other countries? Hint: A whole lot more than 2.3 millions.

              • dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                3
                ·
                1 year ago

                The West, particularly the US where I am, has way more power to stop Israel than it has to force Egypt to accept refugees. They don’t need to “listen to reason” they need to be told to stop or we’ll stop propping up your entire economy and defense apparatus.

                • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Ok? They won’t stop in the next hour or two, how do we protect the civilians until they do?

                  • dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    5
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Are you suggesting it’s quicker to relocate 2 million people than it is to get a dependent colony to stop committing genocide?