The biggest hurdle for this movie — and any non-franchise movie for the foreseeable future — is getting people to care about something that isn’t based on something they’re already familiar with.
from https://www.slashfilm.com/1807986/mickey-17-flopped-box-office-reasons/
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I would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone to go watch the movie Sinners. Reward the artists.
Also, 20 minute “trailers” before the actual movie.
I remember when trailer were a big deal. People went to see a movie they didn’t care for just for the trailer. I haven’t watched a trailer for like 15 years and it’s nice when they don’t tell you the whole movie before you saw it.
When I was a kid in the 90s, the 70s were in vogue and if you wanted to be retro it meant the 70s. That 70s Show for example, plus N-Trance doing all those old disco remixes, plus Dazed and Confused, plus Almost Famous, plus the disco songs in The Full Monty, etc.
And in the 70s, retro chic meant the 50s, what with Grease and American Graffiti (which was actually set in 1962 but was still about the 50s aesthetic) and Happy Days etc. So it seemed like “retro” meant “20 years ago”.
How, in 25 years, have we only advanced to the 80s for retro chic? Shouldn’t we be on the 90s by now at least, if not the 00s?
PS: perhaps this is indicative of a reduction in cultural influence, today, for the 20-to-30-something demographic, compared to the cultural influence that demographic had in earlier decades. Quentin Tarantino was 29 when he made Reservoir Dogs so he made a movie steeped in 70s vibes. Because in the 90s that age range was where revolutionary thinkers were expected to come from, so naturally the decade of their childhoods, the 70s, was in vogue. Do today’s 29-year-olds have the same platform and opportunities?
Movies in the '90s were more varied, but then after 9/11 and the “war on terror” it seems that there was an intentional focus on superheroes fighting the bad guys, don’t know about the '80s.
Probably not a coincidence that most Golden Age superheroes were created around the beginning of WWII:
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Superman 1938
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Batman 1939
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Captain Marvel/Shazam 1939
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The Human Torch 1939
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Namor the Sub-Mariner 1939
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The Flash 1939
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Captain America 1940
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Green Lantern 1940
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Wonder Woman 1941
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Probably, but CGI maturing and becoming cheaper may have played a larger role.
80’s
'80s
The best stuff at a cinema is rarely plastered all over the front, that’s just advertising for people who don’t really care about movies.
Also if your area is like mine, look for the smaller cinemas that screen the new oddities and forgotten classics
Depends on your town. I live in a small tourist town with one cinema and they only play the biggest hits, focusing on the lowest common denominator. I mean, I’m not even sure they screened Sinners, but they definitely played The Minecraft Movie in 4 (out of 14) theaters for months. If I want to go to a different cinema, I have to drive 45 minutes to get to the next town (where the selection still sucks, but at least they’ve got more screens) or 75 min to get to the closest independent theater.
Exactly, support your independent theatre’s, they are usually run by people who care about cinema and they have more shows for older classics and modern indies and foreign movies
I’m not a big movie theater guy, but I do enjoy heading to the local Alamo Drafthouse occasionally because they have terror Tuesday and weird Wednesday. Then near Halloween it’s like a full day of horror.
Get down to 6 Bags Cinema in Victorville. The aircon isn’t great but shows nothing but popcorn classics.
Yeah, e.g. I stopped paying attention to spider man movies for a few years, but the other day I was doing a recap and found that there is a movie with actors/characters from 3 different versions/reboots with the multiverse excuse…this is some dystopian shit.
I know that comics always had heavy intertext and “guest characters”, but having the scriptwriting be driven by stupid circumstantial corporate decisions to buy IP rights to a specific character and then have to restart it multiple times to keep the rights going feels…dystopian?
(but I’ll be thankful if you have any better words than dystopian to describe this bullshit, gpt suggests “soulless” 🙃).
Dune messiah a franchise exploit? How?
It’s based on the next book in the series. There is a reason for it to exist beyond making money.
anyone who was in for the love of the art already read the books.
Meaning what, that movie adaptations are not necessary? I know that.
The posted list put Dune in with movies that were made based purely on the success of their predecessor, which is not the case for Dune.
Now, while the sequel wouldn’t have been made if its predecessor hadn’t been successful, the books are the driver behind making the movies.
Why spend time and money making new things when tried and true stuff sells just as well?
Welcome to capitalism, where art goes to die.
sinners
But someone said capitalism fostered innovation!?
nah, only if some rich guy can use it to extract money from as many people as possible.
Somebody lied.
it can, but requires strong regulation to do so. We don’t have that these days.
When an original movie or property comes out, nobody goes to watch it. The people complaining about the lack of originality certainly don’t go watch. The last half dozen original movies that Disney has released have bombed, regardless of good ratings. People are paying to see remakes and reboots, which is why they keep making them.
Nobody who complains actually goes to support the original films
Indeed, much of enshittification can be blamed on the corporations, but this one is definitely the consumer’s fault.
Just last year, I went to a new, original movie called Juror #2. It looked great in the trailer, and I was not disappointed! At least, not by the movie. I was disappointed by the fact that there were only like 20/30 people in the room to watch it. And this was only a week after it came out! Meanwhile, Gladiator II had a fully booked and bigger room.
Same, I remember going to the theatre to watch a Ghibli movie, can’t remember which, maybe the wind rises. And the auditorium was empty except for another couple. Meanwhile there was a huge crowd coming out of Trolls 2 or whatever the fuck
‘From the World of John Wick: Ballerina’ was probably my favourite movie this year and there were only like 10 other people in the theater on release night, which is suprising for such a good action flick from a popular franchise.
The last half dozen original movies that Disney has released have bombed
The last half dozen original movies that Disney has released got a fraction of the promotion that they gave the sequels.
Doubtful, im a dad and my kid is always well aware of movies coming out. He watches them all and sees the ads. Recently he’s been obsessed with elio. You know, the original movie getting shit on because they dared make the main character special needs, therefore “woke”.
Hey, don’t forget those of us who like to complain for complaining’s sake. My poor aching scarf.
This is just so inaccurate. Sometimes it’s 90’s reboots and remakes with talking animals, too.
And now, Disneys latest innovation: Live action(ish) reboots with talking animals!
And the Talking Animals will either be the best option or the worst option
And coming soon! The one midnight showing of the indie movie everyone secretly wants to watch.
This is a lazy meme, I’ve seen dozens of original movies both foreign and domestic in the last few months, people don’t want to go to the theatre for anything other than IP blockbusters and then complain that IP blockbusters keep getting made, change your habits first
They still have a few the low budget horror films and originals by Soderberg but no one watches them even when they are really good. I go every week and don’t watch any remakes and maybe the occasional superhero flick when it reviews well. There are maybe 9 people in the theater.
It’s so annoying to see this shit. Every person who complains about how stale movie releases are only ever goes to see what the ads on tv/youtube tell them to, then whine about their own choice while excellent indie movies eke by or fail outright. They reinforce the problem they complain about with zero sense of hypocrisy.
People can’t afford to go out to watch movies regularly enough to justify taking a gamble with their small entertainment budget.
The theatre experience is becoming so expensive and frankly unsatisfying compared to watching from home. Snacks that aren’t 22$ for a popcorn combo, smoke and toilet breaks, no shitheads with their phones, etc…
So no shit they are gonna take the safe bet and just download and watch the movies that they are unsure about.
It’s a negative feedback loop being used by the executives to pump out more regulated slop while thinking that’s what people want. No, people just can afford shit you greedy fucks!
This is not a new complaint. It’s been around for decades.
Yeah I will say it’s been super cheep for me to go to the movies it’s about $5 or less per movie. But i recognize that not everyone has the option to go to the Alamo Draft House. I also don’t eat during the movies i eat before.
Eat before going to the theatre and try to go for shows before 5 pm, I usual get tickets for 12$ or less
Yeah black bag was a great movie that no one saw and only was in the theater for like a week before it got pulled.
