Here are the latest casualty figures as of October 24, 2.40pm local time (11:40 GMT):
Gaza
Killed: At least 5,791
Including at least:
2,360 children
1,292 women
Injured: More than 16,297
Occupied West Bank
Killed: At least 96
Injured: At least 1,828
Israel
Killed: At least 1,405
Injured: At least 5,431
Aljazeera fails to mention that using civilian infrastructure as military installations is a warcrime and that those are legitimate war targets, therefore all those numbers are actually on Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Also huge doubt on the actual numbers themselves since it is, well, Aljazeera. Might as well listen to RT.
Buddy, they live in an incredibly densely populated open-air prison. There’s no option of using “military infrastructure” when it’s incapable of existing in Gaza.
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I think what you fail to grasp is that for some people “it’s on Hamas” doesn’t change the the ethical calculus. It doesn’t diminish their feeling of empathy towards the victims and their families.
So what’s the alternative? Not pressure Hamas with rockets to free the hostages is probably not an option because of how diabolically they planned their bases of operations next to hospitals, schools or inside civilian buildings.
So Israel should try to go in with the army on foot and evacuate building by building by force? Sure that will be no problem especially given that Hamas will 100% pose as civilians during those raids and attack Israel from behind with all the tunnels underneath Gaza - so every soldier there would be extremely paranoid - no way that can go wrong.
Not doing anything and letting Hamas take hostages and kill thousands is not an option either - so calling for evacuation and then targeting legitimate targets by international law is the correct course of action even though I agree that it’s an extremely shitty situation for the civilians there.
At least the civilians killed by Israel are killed by accident and not fully intentional like Hamas is doing.
Everyone can agree that the civilians in Gaza are the poorest party in this but imho people fail to grasp the situation from different viewpoints and see it for how complex it is.
I don’t know what the alternatives are and nowhere in my comment did I weigh in one way or the other. I’m merely pointing out that “it’s on Hamas” is not doing anything for some/many. Israel is held to a higher standard than Hamas - a terrorist organization. It’s also held to a higher standard than mass war criming regimes like Russia.
Then stop commenting.
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lol Interesting claim from someone doing their own selective editing. Your second link is dead so I couldn’t follow it but the third link… why did you cut it right before
Thanks for the headsup on the dead link. I’ve replaced it with an archived link.
Obviously I’m not going to argue the US isn’t hypocritical in its dealings with Qatar. You can also look forward to Europe doing exactly nothing, because they rely on Qatari gas.
But if you think it’s damning that Qatar has close ties to the US, you should probably read this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/07/30/how-israel-helped-create-hamas
That’s the thing with people who spread pro-Islamist coverage, including stuff from al-Jazeera.
For years Hamas was supported by key players in Israel. A strong Hamas helped to sow division in the Palestinian cause, undermining the two state solution. People who support Hamas, and/or push pro-Islamist media, are arguably helping support the continued oppression of the Palestinian people.
Netenyahu and the Jewish supremacists in his government, certainly weren’t too dissapointed by this recent Hamas attack. They have their excuse now. Thanks to Hamas and media like Al-Jazeera who support them.
No, the opposite.
… I had to go back because I didn’t understand your response in context. I reread your original comment and I think I misunderstood you.
Not really sure where to go from here. I don’t think Al Jazeera is nearly as bad as RT. Is AJ propaganda? Yeah, in the same way WSJ is. Everybody has a bias but I’ve never seen AJ bend the truth like Fox or NY Post.
Quatar is a key partner because they have a position that allows for negotiations and are not as fundamentally extremist as many other countries in the region
Hamas leaders are living in quatar though without Quatar having any problem with that - they are basically Switzerland in the middle east.
And Al-Jazeera reported stuff directly from official sources from Palestine which happened to be exaggerated Hamas propaganda all the time - I’d say it’s a bit less one-sided than RT since they usually include other views as well but it’s still extremely biased reporting for issues regarding the conflict