• Wolf@lemmy.today
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      19 hours ago

      I think you might be reading too much into that statement. They were saying that the Democrats have failed to differentiate themselves on that specific issue, and that’s an objective fact.

      They also said that Trump was the worst option.

      I agree with them that we shouldn’t have to keep quiet about what a shit human being politician A is, on the off chance that it might cause a complete idiot to vote for politician B who is just as bad on that issue and worse in just about every other way.

      An idiot is going to idiot no matter what you do, and it’s not on us to cover up for liberals and their shit candidates.

      If the Democrats want us to stop discussing what trash human beings their candidates are, there is a simple solution for that. I’m sure you can figure out what that is if you think about it.

      No matter where you are in the world, this is going to affect you as well. You should be just as mad at the Democrats for putting an unelectable piece of shit up against Trump as I am, not making excuses for them and blaming leftists. We didn’t have Jack shit to do with it.

      The DNC had ONE job, put up a candidate that could beat a fascist dictator. That should have been the easiest job in the world.

      They fucked up. And now we are all paying for it. Quit trying to shift the blame where it doesn’t belong.

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        The American people had one job, not to elect the fascist. The DNC should have been able to ran a dirty diaper and win. The American people elected the president, not the DNC. This is on them. (Let alone the fact primary voters decide decided who the candidate was, not the DNC).

        And now those voters are on the internet blaming the DNC, the voting machines, the weather and a thousand other things. Nah bros, this one is on you all.

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          “The American People” are not a monolith, we are actually composed of a diverse group of hundreds of millions of people. Blaming every person in the country for the actions of some is reductive, myopic, and ignorant.

          Your uninformed take is about as nuanced as claiming Sophie Scholl was just as responsible for The 3rd Reich as Adolf Hitler because she didn’t do more to stop him.

          Who knows, given your utter lack of understanding, you might well believe that.

          I’ve already explained in great detail how it actually is the DNC and not the voters who decides who wins the primaries. If your reading comprehension is really that lacking, I’m not sure I can help you with your problem. If you still don’t understand try having an adult explain it to you.

          Good Luck with whatever your issue is. Hopefully you are fortunate enough to live somewhere that you have access to good mental health treatment.

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            I’m not blaming “every single individual person”. I’m blaming “the American people”, who elected trump. Twice.

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              I’m not sure what you are trying to say. I’m not even sure you know what you are trying to say.

              “The American People” includes every single individual person who lives in the U.S. Your statement is a non sequitur.

              I certainly didn’t elect Trump, either time. Neither did my fellow leftists. Not a single leftist voted for Trump, guaranteed.

              It’s also obvious you aren’t arguing in good faith, so I’m way past the point of giving your lame ass trolling the benefit of the doubt.

              Get help.

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                You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually. Like BP is responsible for an oil spill, but Joe the janitor of the local gas station isn’t.

                Public education in the US really sucks, huh?

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                  You can blame a group without blaming every single member of the group individually.

                  What an ignorant statement lmfao. When you blame an entire group of people for something, that includes all of the individuals within that group. It’s like if you said “All Berries are gross” but then I say “What about Blueberries” and you respond with “I didn’t mean Blueberries”. If you said “Most Berries are gross” or “Some Berries are gross” or “All Berries are gross with the exception of Blueberries” that would be a different story, because words have meanings.

                  “The American People” are no more responsible for Trump being elected than “The German People” were responsible for the Nazi’s or “Everyone who works for BP” is responsible for Oil spills.

                  Your lame attempt to use semantic wordplay to backpedal your moronic “Leftists Got Trump Elected” claim might have held more weight if the context of the entire conversation wasn’t already which specific groups within the U.S. are responsible for Trump being elected.

                  Blaming “U.S. Leftists” for Trump is every bit as reasonable as blaming “The White Rose” for the Nazi’s or “Joe the Janitor” for the Deepwater Horizon. My assertion that lumping all Americans together as if we are a homogeneous group is reductive, myopic, and ignorant stands.

                  Public education in the US really sucks, huh?

                  It sure does, my guess is you were ‘educated’ here and were bougie enough to afford to emigrate to somewhere in Europe that is a much more normal place to live than the U.S. and now you sit around in your place of privilege judging the people in the country you abandoned when you aren’t sniffing your own farts. It’s either that or you are one of those uppity Europeans who believes your country has always been perfect and you are better than Americans because you happened to not be born in crazy town and your education system isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

                  Congratulations on your sense of superiority, I’m sure you believe you have earned it.