Not from the USA, very simple for me. I would go outside and talk to people what they think. If they are pro Trump, see why that is. Then show them how he is absolutely not doing anything for them, based on quotes of him directly, if possible.
God if only it were that easy. People aren’t joking when they say trump could shit on a republican’s face and they’d still blame Biden/Obama/Minorities
In all seriousness, they are cult. They did not logic themselves into their views, so showing proof does nothing. You pushing back (in ANY way) simply make you one of the “others” they are warned about. Doesn’t matter if you were previously considered family, friend, or stranger. Like literally nothing will get through to the peoples who are still stanning DJT until they themselves get hurt to such a high degree AND have no one else to blame (because if there is anyone else they even think they can blame instead, they absolutely will).
They are conditioned to excuse his behavior at turn even when it makes zero sense and completely verifiable. They do not believe what they can see with their own eyes. Fox and now the mainstream media puts out a ton of propaganda which also contributes. Finally, they truly don’t know how to do scientific research because they don’t respect science (see vaccine deniers, handling of COVID, bird flu, Measels, etc.).
I appreciate the thought and desire to improve things and a rational response. Unfortumately, we’re not dealing with rational individuals. They will not accept any views contrary to their own no matter how much factual, verifiable evidence you put in front of them.
They will excuse any behavior someone on their side exhibits and will deflect to immidiately talk about something dems did. If they provide a valid example, and you say, “Yes, and that person should also be investigated and punished,” they still won’t admit that their guy did anything wrong.
This is a cult and we aren’t just saying that. So you can’t just talk them out of it. While some of their views may be valid, they often seek extreme measures to enact their views. Even their good ideas are soiled.
I’m totally willing to sit down and have a conversation with a conservative, but I draw the line at blind idolatry.
The thing is, even some people like flat earthers etc. can be brought to reason when you actually listen to them and tell them how they are wrong. There are a few interviews with such people, which is why I think it is always worth talking to people.
So you can see where this is going? What are you going to do about it? What are even realistic options? Perhaps a strongly worded post on X?
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Luigi’s Haunted Mansion
Instead of bitching in the same public manner they are informing people on, what’s YOUR resolution…or do you just complain about others
Not from the USA, very simple for me. I would go outside and talk to people what they think. If they are pro Trump, see why that is. Then show them how he is absolutely not doing anything for them, based on quotes of him directly, if possible.
God if only it were that easy. People aren’t joking when they say trump could shit on a republican’s face and they’d still blame Biden/Obama/Minorities
In all seriousness, they are cult. They did not logic themselves into their views, so showing proof does nothing. You pushing back (in ANY way) simply make you one of the “others” they are warned about. Doesn’t matter if you were previously considered family, friend, or stranger. Like literally nothing will get through to the peoples who are still stanning DJT until they themselves get hurt to such a high degree AND have no one else to blame (because if there is anyone else they even think they can blame instead, they absolutely will).
They are conditioned to excuse his behavior at turn even when it makes zero sense and completely verifiable. They do not believe what they can see with their own eyes. Fox and now the mainstream media puts out a ton of propaganda which also contributes. Finally, they truly don’t know how to do scientific research because they don’t respect science (see vaccine deniers, handling of COVID, bird flu, Measels, etc.).
I appreciate the thought and desire to improve things and a rational response. Unfortumately, we’re not dealing with rational individuals. They will not accept any views contrary to their own no matter how much factual, verifiable evidence you put in front of them.
They will excuse any behavior someone on their side exhibits and will deflect to immidiately talk about something dems did. If they provide a valid example, and you say, “Yes, and that person should also be investigated and punished,” they still won’t admit that their guy did anything wrong.
This is a cult and we aren’t just saying that. So you can’t just talk them out of it. While some of their views may be valid, they often seek extreme measures to enact their views. Even their good ideas are soiled.
I’m totally willing to sit down and have a conversation with a conservative, but I draw the line at blind idolatry.
Here’s a perfect example of just how indoctrinated these people are from The Daily Show https://youtube.com/shorts/w_Ve3_dwlbs
This made me so mad
The thing is, even some people like flat earthers etc. can be brought to reason when you actually listen to them and tell them how they are wrong. There are a few interviews with such people, which is why I think it is always worth talking to people.
You haven’t talked to many USians. I don’t blame you.
PS: those who travel are a minority of a minority and tend to be the most well rounded
You clearly are not from the US if you think MAGA fuckheads are reasonable.
Come on over and give it a try genius.
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This is the kind of american that is pro trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9If_IEAMitQ
Great. Now I have to watch that movie.
Highly recommended. A very good film and very apropos to what’s happening right now