Maybe I’m just getting old, but sometimes it feels like the continual release of new distros vying to become “The One”… the consumer-friendly Linux… it just seems like it’s counterproductive.
How many user-friendly-focused Linux distros do we have now? At least 8 or 9?
Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin, Pop! (if only System76 laptops weren’t so damn expensive), MX, elementary, ChromeOS technically is doing the best by far, Manjaro, and now Vanilla…
Just my 2 cents, but consumer-friendly means getting something preinstalled on consumer-facing hardware (at stores, where they can see it, touch it, and try it). That’s why ChromeOS and Android tore past every other linux distro in a heartbeat. If you count SteamOS as an independent OS, it’s also doing better than most “traditional” Linux distros.
I used to think like that, but now I think about it in a different way.
These small distros often come with new approaches the big distros aren’t willing to risk yet, or provide an alternative to their dependence. Most of them will fail, but they’re important for bringing innovation to the linux-based OSes space.
Small distros come and go, but sometimes, even if they fail, their proposed idea gets integrated into the main ones, and that’s a bonus.
That particular one might not be so innovative, because there are already big distros pushing the immutable system concept, but, is doing the same while maintained by community effort, uses debian as a base, and focus on ease of usage. I think it still adds some value to the community
I don’t think it doesn’t add to the Linux community from a technical standpoint, I think it doesn’t bring new users into the community.
As a technical concept, immutable OSes are (imo, an unfortunate) up-and-coming design (although obviously ChromeOS already brought that mainstream in Linux a while ago). But that itself is not a feature that lay users (who it claims to be targeting) are going to care about. Lay users don’t care about how their OS gets updates, or how the mechanisms that make it secure function, because they can’t substantiate those claims anyways. I think it can be difficult for us technical users to conceptualize the utter lack of interest that lay users have in the “how” of computers. They want a shiny, already-working device. If they have to install something themselves, it’s already lost most of them.
I’m not sure how they’re marketed, but if I were to convert family to a linux distro I’d want something immutable or at least containerized so they can’t mess it up no matter what weird things they click. Otherwise I’d expect to become their permanent IT with my ssh keys preinstalled.
Maybe I’m just getting old, but sometimes it feels like the continual release of new distros vying to become “The One”… the consumer-friendly Linux… it just seems like it’s counterproductive.
How many user-friendly-focused Linux distros do we have now? At least 8 or 9? Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin, Pop! (if only System76 laptops weren’t so damn expensive), MX, elementary, ChromeOS technically is doing the best by far, Manjaro, and now Vanilla…
Just my 2 cents, but consumer-friendly means getting something preinstalled on consumer-facing hardware (at stores, where they can see it, touch it, and try it). That’s why ChromeOS and Android tore past every other linux distro in a heartbeat. If you count SteamOS as an independent OS, it’s also doing better than most “traditional” Linux distros.
I used to think like that, but now I think about it in a different way.
These small distros often come with new approaches the big distros aren’t willing to risk yet, or provide an alternative to their dependence. Most of them will fail, but they’re important for bringing innovation to the linux-based OSes space.
Small distros come and go, but sometimes, even if they fail, their proposed idea gets integrated into the main ones, and that’s a bonus.
That particular one might not be so innovative, because there are already big distros pushing the immutable system concept, but, is doing the same while maintained by community effort, uses debian as a base, and focus on ease of usage. I think it still adds some value to the community
I don’t think it doesn’t add to the Linux community from a technical standpoint, I think it doesn’t bring new users into the community. As a technical concept, immutable OSes are (imo, an unfortunate) up-and-coming design (although obviously ChromeOS already brought that mainstream in Linux a while ago). But that itself is not a feature that lay users (who it claims to be targeting) are going to care about. Lay users don’t care about how their OS gets updates, or how the mechanisms that make it secure function, because they can’t substantiate those claims anyways. I think it can be difficult for us technical users to conceptualize the utter lack of interest that lay users have in the “how” of computers. They want a shiny, already-working device. If they have to install something themselves, it’s already lost most of them.
I see now. You made some good points. Indeed, the targeted userbase doesn’t care about how the system works, so they may have a conflict in there,
I’m not sure how they’re marketed, but if I were to convert family to a linux distro I’d want something immutable or at least containerized so they can’t mess it up no matter what weird things they click. Otherwise I’d expect to become their permanent IT with my ssh keys preinstalled.