• TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    No one wants to hear it, I suspect, but eating very low carb is how this is done.

    No sugar and no grains for one month and the cravings are gone. You can easily go 48 hours on water alone, if you need or want to.

    What nearly everyone calls hunger is actually cravings for carbs. True hunger is painful and consumes every thought. Likely no one you’ve ever met has been truly hungry.

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      4 days ago

      I don’t think there is a single fix for this. My diet is pretty carb heavy and I forget meals all the time. You just get focused on something and it’s…why am I lightheaded?…oh yeah. Food in the last 12 hours might have been nice.

      Background…it’s not just me but our genetics are bonkers. There are four other people in my family 35-75 years old and 5.5-6ft tall. Not a single one of us is over 130 pounds. We all struggle to gain weight. Doesn’t matter what we eat…good food or absolute garbage. Absolute garbage has other consequences…like also feeling like garbage but weight gain isn’t one of them. Cravings for anything are rare…drove my college roommate nuts that I could have candy around for like 6+ months.

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        3 days ago

        You have a better tolerance for carbs then most people. However, this meme is about people basically being addicted to carbs and fighting their food cravings when they burn through the 5g of glucose in the blood (because the body stores fat, not carbs). Carbs are the reason people are on the hangry roller coaster, always thinking about the next meal like it’s an emergency

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      4 days ago

      You probably think no one wants to hear it when they disagree, but more likely what works for you doesn’t work for everyone. As the person replying to you exemplified. There isn’t a one trick for everyone in these kinda of things, and anyone who claims there is is either ignorant or scamming.

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        3 days ago

        Or most people haven’t tried it and are incredulous that it works and can’t imagine life without the food noise and cravings

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          3 days ago

          Easy way to prove it; show us the peer reviewed scientific studies. There’s been times when almost everyone has been wrong, and what proved it was the scientific method.

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            3 days ago

            I’m not familiar with much research on food noise as a topic by itself.

            However you may find this paper on the power of sugar addiction in rats Intense Sweetness Surpasses Cocaine Reward - 2007

            Our findings clearly demonstrate that intense sweetness can surpass cocaine reward, even in drug-sensitized and -addicted individuals. We speculate that the addictive potential of intense sweetness results from an inborn hypersensitivity to sweet tastants. In most mammals, including rats and humans, sweet receptors evolved in ancestral environments poor in sugars and are thus not adapted to high concentrations of sweet tastants. The supranormal stimulation of these receptors by sugar-rich diets, such as those now widely available in modern societies, would generate a supranormal reward signal in the brain, with the potential to override self-control mechanisms and thus to lead to addiction.

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              2 days ago

              An interesting flaw with the sugar studies with rats is that it required limiting the amount of sugar available. They did act like addicts when the sugar was presented to them intermittently then taken away, but when they had full free access to it, they no longer binged on it and didn’t have addictive traits. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4361030/#%3A~%3Atext=Rats+with+ad+libitum+access%2Cand+by+avidity+for+alcohol.

              Because of this, some suggest the studies are actually arguments against hyper limited diets, instead of in support. Part of an argument on that is that it’s harder for us keep up something we dislike for a long period of time, whereas making smaller changes we can adapt to keeps our enjoyment and can still change behavior over time.

              Anecdotal: I stopped drinking soda, cut down on sweets and juice etc a while ago(10-15 years?). I still have sweets from time to time, but the general feeling is I feel many things are too sweet, and I prefer lighter sweetness. I still like it somewhat, but soda tastes like syrup, and I generally just feel like less, but I don’t exclude it completely or anything.

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                2 days ago

                Its interesting you bring up the limitation, it seems that most of the “calorie reduced” food studies on animals are actually intermittent fasting studies

                Glad to see you have had success giving up soda!