cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/22945751

Hello.

See the picture please. Ants found their way into many panels of my (bought with the house, no idea about its history) greenhouse. At first I thought they could he beneficial, cleaninf up the crud that found its way in there but now they are laying mondo quantities of eggs.

I just spent 3 hours removing and washing two panels, but the greenhouse is built between two metal fences and either I’m doing it wrong, or the location doesn’t make it easier. I will have to do it again to replace the broken tape closing the panels (which is arguably the root cause) but… I’m open to suggestions. Maybe I’m overthinking it and they will move out when it’s really hot?

Antsy yours

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  • meyotch@slrpnk.netEnglish
    12·
    7 days ago

    Yeah the only way to prevent that is to repair the tape. There is a breathable tape designed for that that keeps insects out but allows moisture in and out to prevent condensation inside the channels.

    • signaleleven@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
      11·
      8 days ago

      It’s on the north side, it gets sun but not too direct. The same cannot be said for me, working on it on the hottest day of the year so far. Stick a fork in me. I’m done.

  • Spaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    10·
    7 days ago

    As an ant keeper, they moved their eggs and pupae to warm up and hatch faster. They dont look like carpenter ants so no structural damage to worry about. They do keep other bugs away but could be a pest if they farm aphids.

    If it gets to hot or too cold they will move again. I would mark the panels where they are in so you know where to repair if this is undesirable.

    Good luck and let me know if you have any questions.

    • signaleleven@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
      3·
      7 days ago

      Thank you! That seems to agree with what I observed in a mostly shady southern panel, where I observed the same early in the year, and while there are still some, they seem to have moved on (well, as long as I dont look on the north side :))

      That is fascinating about them using it as incubator. I forgot that ants don’t all lay eggs… So they must be taking them there from where the queen lives?

      I’ll leave them alone and observe for a while and ping you here if I have questions, thank you!

      • Spaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 days ago

        Yes, the eggs and larva and pupae (cocoons) are moved to where the best place would be for that stage of life to grow the fastest.

      • signaleleven@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
        2·
        7 days ago

        Yesterday night there was heavy rain, it must have been bumpy in there.

        Are these crumbles a sign they hatched or broken? There seem to be more ants around today… Do they come out of that cocoon fully independent?

        They also seem to be accumulating under the frame, so it might be already getting a bit too hot for them?

        It’s fun to watch, I hope I don’t regret it 😅

        • Spaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          6 days ago

          Looks like hatched or them adding sand or something to help them hold on or be able to stack cocoons better.

          There will be empty cocoons if they hatch and maybe pieces of them if they break them down but if there are no more cocoons they probably moved them due to humidity/temp.

          Edit: if you really dont like them in there and are ready to repair it, you could use a hair dryer to heat it up or ice to make them move if you care about them.

          Edit 2: didnt see second picture. Probably hatched and they dumped the empty cocoons. I keep trying to figure out the species to make sure they arent Camponotus (carpenter ants) but without more location information, like nothern america or wooded area or whetever you are comfortable with sharing would be hard to tell. In any case you should probably fix the panel? To prevent mold from the discarded/bad cocoons and other junk they may leave there.

          • signaleleven@slrpnk.netOPEnglish
            1·
            5 days ago

            The location is southern Germany. I don’t know if carpenter ants are a thing here.

            They now amassed almost everything in the sections of the panels that are partially covered by the structure. It rained hard for 24 hours, so they are not shielding from the sun,

            The ants are now spread on at least 4 panels (but crucially, not in the one that I flushed, fully damaging the tape). I guess it’s very humid in there, I let it bake off a bit before reinstalling it, but then I thought it would dry also while installed, given the damaged tape. The heavy rain didn’t make it worse (the openings are in a protected area)

            I will have to spend the better part of a day to remove and fix all panels, so I guess I’ll observe the evolution until the weekend. I would not have the time (and the weather!) for major maintenance until then.

            The garden has several spots with heavy ants activity. I naively expect that after hatching they will move out…

  • Dogyote@slrpnk.netEnglish
    2·
    7 days ago

    I’d let this play out for awhile if it was my house, unless of course they’re causing trouble elsewhere. It’d be fun to watch.