The 12-year-old Israeli girl whose “Harry Potter”-inspired photo went viral after she was kidnapped by Hamas has been found dead alongside her grandmother in Gaza.

    • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      42
      arrow-down
      20
      ·
      1 year ago

      If a bunch of Hamas terrorists drag a 12 year old into the path of an incoming bombardment, they’re still the ones responsible for that death.

      • Grimy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        16
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        1 year ago

        Full stop, it’s always the one who sent the missle who kills the person and is responsible. It’s always up to them to verify that civilians aren’t around the target. Isreal doesn’t care about childrens being a victim of their attacks.

        • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          7
          ·
          1 year ago

          Oh?

          So, if I shoot at you and hide behind a child, it is your fault for defending yourself? Not mine for TAKING A HOSTAGE?

          • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            If I shoot back while you’re behind that child, it shows how little I care about the child, or at the very least conflicting priorities.

            • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              And what happens when the person hiding behind that child is shooting at other children? You do the best you can, but sometimes, shit happens.

          • Grimy@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            The missle was miles away, no one was in danger when it was sent except the literal person that it killed (and a bunch of civilians that probably had nothing to do with it, half of them statistically children)

            When there is a hostage situation, the cops don’t bomb the whole building even when shot at. Any hostage death directly caused by an officer is a complete and utter failure.

            I reject your rhetoric. Your analogy is clearly not apt and still points to unacceptable behavior.

            Isreal does not care about the hostages, they do not care about the civilians and children casualties. They are killing swaths of people to steal land, to cleanse whole towns ethnically and to “teach” Hamas a lesson.

            I’m constantly surprised how easy it is for certain people to cheer on genocide and mass murder. You should be ashamed.

      • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        21
        ·
        1 year ago

        Well maybe israel shouldn’t bomb the area and focus on saving the hostage like everyone have told them, she wouldn’t be dead

      • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        20
        arrow-down
        29
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Someone ordered the bombing. They’re to blame. Should we go back to the Nakba, the Balfour Declaration and the British mandate? Or are we aiming for the Garden of Eden and original sin? Let’s take the philosophical route and delve into the origins of human nature. Maybe she’s still alive in another universe. The inability for some to see the context of history and the cause and effect that occurs limits my hope for humanity. We have the ability to seek and learn knowledge, but choose not to, based on some indoctrinated belief system that was neither designed or chosen by the vast majority. God works in mysterious ways.

        • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          30
          arrow-down
          23
          ·
          1 year ago

          Hamas started the war and hid in cities, trying to make sure enough civilians were around that Israel had trouble retaliating after they launched their rockets at civilians. They’re genocidal terrorists who are religious fanatics. I’m gonna blame them for their hostage dying. If you aren’t, that’s a you problem.

            • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              25
              arrow-down
              18
              ·
              1 year ago

              You can either insist there’s been a consistent conflict since 1948, which was started by the Arabs, or you can mark the beginning of the current conflict at the massive terrorism attack by Hamas this year. Take your pick.

              • P1r4nha@feddit.de
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                10
                arrow-down
                11
                ·
                1 year ago

                But acting like Israel’s carpet bombing of Gaza is like a force of nature is weird as well, no? The way you say it, it sounds like Hamas took the hostages into the path of a Hurricane. Was it so clear to everyone that Israel wouldn’t give a shit about the hostages and would be bombing Gaza indiscriminately?

                • Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  14
                  arrow-down
                  11
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  If Israel was carpet bombing Gaza, we would have a million dead civilians now. I don’t know why y’all need to make shit up.

                  • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    9
                    arrow-down
                    11
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    There’s more than 3.5k palestine death caused by israeli indiscriminately bombing. Having less than what you expect doesn’t make them any hero

    • Virkkunen@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      So what you’re telling us is that both sides have equal blame in this terrorist attack that took the lives of so many civilians?

      I can agree with that, it’s reasonable