• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Are you complaining about the efficient supply chains and low cost-per-unit of production?

    Or are you complaining about the high degree of profit-taking and the denial of public benefits to the working class?

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      14 hours ago

      Efficiency and low-cost comes with baggage too, so I guess both in a way. Efficiency and low cost good, but what is required to achieve those often sucks

      The second thing is undeniably bad

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        5 hours ago

        Efficiency and low-cost comes with baggage too

        Automation under capitalism: Tons of unemployment and poverty while a few insiders get lots of treats

        Automation under socialism: Shorter work weeks, more vacation, and the standard of living for everyone goes up

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          5 hours ago

          Did the shorter work weeks and more vacation after automation materialize in socialist states?

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                3 hours ago

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-hour_day_movement

                The eight-hour day movement (also known as the 40-hour week movement or the short-time movement) was a social movement to regulate the length of a working day, preventing excesses and abuses of working time.

                Just for starters.

                The modern concept of “Retirement” is also tied to socialist policy and politics. One of the first major reforms states implement after a socialist election or Marxist revolution is the implementation of retirement age. And those countries with the strongest socialist histories tend to have the lowest retirement ages and most generous pensions. Fully socialist states like Vietnam and China and South Africa have retirement in the 55-62 range. More socialist-leaning European/East Asian states like France, Denmark, Korea, and Japan have a retirement age in the 63-67 range. And fully captured capitalist systems like Uganda or Bangladesh or the undocumented worker pools of the Americas have no retirement for private workers whatsoever, working people to death.