DSA being coopted by the Dems is the main reason I looked to alternatives and found the PSL. Maybe they can work together more if the DSA is ready to break from them completely and i can look at them again. They do have way more members it seems.
Internally active DSA membership ranges from communist to anarchist, but there is still a small faction of entrenched Social Democrats in the “Socialist Majority Caucus”. But everyone hates them. Who knows about paper members. Discussion on the national forum ranges from “how can we explicitly break from the democrats”, to “why are we bothering with electoral politics?”
The current plan is to run “Tribune of the Plebs” style candidates wherever we can until we build enough infrastructure to run our own party. IE building replacements ActBlue and NGP Van. The latter being the hardest. Please keep that in mind when you talk about needing a workers party and who’s actually trying to make that happen.
They’re not trying to win any elections or hold any offices. Whatever workers party the DSA is trying to build is. The PSLs concept of a workers party is a militant movement primarily engaged in direct action. This is something I’ve heard from an actual PSL member on this site, any others are free to clarify, but as I understand their position is that electoralism is futile. Which I sympathize with and probably most actual DSA organizers do to. But you do the Mao thing and go to the people and they really want to vote socialist and see change.
The PSL is working on running more candidates at the state and local level. It’s just hard to find suitable, well, candidates. I can’t say anything more than that.
DSA being coopted by the Dems is the main reason I looked to alternatives and found the PSL. Maybe they can work together more if the DSA is ready to break from them completely and i can look at them again. They do have way more members it seems.
Internally active DSA membership ranges from communist to anarchist, but there is still a small faction of entrenched Social Democrats in the “Socialist Majority Caucus”. But everyone hates them. Who knows about paper members. Discussion on the national forum ranges from “how can we explicitly break from the democrats”, to “why are we bothering with electoral politics?”
The current plan is to run “Tribune of the Plebs” style candidates wherever we can until we build enough infrastructure to run our own party. IE building replacements ActBlue and NGP Van. The latter being the hardest. Please keep that in mind when you talk about needing a workers party and who’s actually trying to make that happen.
Are you saying the PSL is not doing that?
They’re not trying to win any elections or hold any offices. Whatever workers party the DSA is trying to build is. The PSLs concept of a workers party is a militant movement primarily engaged in direct action. This is something I’ve heard from an actual PSL member on this site, any others are free to clarify, but as I understand their position is that electoralism is futile. Which I sympathize with and probably most actual DSA organizers do to. But you do the Mao thing and go to the people and they really want to vote socialist and see change.
The PSL is working on running more candidates at the state and local level. It’s just hard to find suitable, well, candidates. I can’t say anything more than that.
Is that a recent change in decision or have they always been trying to run local candidates?
Be sure to check out your local DSA chapter. It’s very decentralized and a given chapter can be totally fine or totally shit.