• Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    13 days ago

    It is treatbrained to think that not eating at Burger King = making them miserable.

    Why not have a not-miserable mess hall as a rule instead of having the soldiers use their own pay on crunchwrap supremes?

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      13 days ago

      Have you ever interacted with American soldiers? Recently? The average American is used to those things. I think we should change a lot about our society, but focusing on keeping fast food off of military bases is treating the symptoms instead of the problem. If the soldiers didn’t want that food, then those places wouldn’t make money, and the military makes more money through those contracts. This is a simple and expected outcome of a capitalist society. If those establishments exist, we should give our soldiers the choice of having them in their lives.

      Do you know what our military bases actually look like? These people literally live on bases for years. There are elementary through high schools on bases. Filled with children who are only there because of their parents’ decisions. With teachers who aren’t active military either. Saying “these people should be satisfied with mess halls, and we should provide them with better mess halls” completely ignores everything else about the situation.

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        13 days ago

        It’s even more of a failure than just straight-up charging the captive audience for their meals in the mess hall. Not only does the military not have to pay for the meals, they get paid by the businesses lmao. Bleed the boots dry by all means, but this is like the most american thing I can imagine.

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        12 days ago

        Have you ever interacted with American soldiers? Recently? The average American is used to those things.

        I am an average american and I am not used to those things. I go to work, and then I go home and cook a meal for my family.

        and the military makes more money through those contracts.

        So then why do they need my tax dollars if they have all these lucrative deals with multinational billionaire companies? Although, this is beside the point that I don’t think any part of the U.S. Military should be “making money.” JFC

        This is a simple and expected outcome of a capitalist society. If those establishments exist, we should give our soldiers the choice of having them in their lives.

        Why? I find that those establishments are neither healthy nor economical compared to a basic vegetables and rice meal.

        Do you know what our military bases actually look like? These people literally live on bases for years.

        Then I would expect the bases to have facilities that reflect this fact. That is proper logistical thinking, after all.


        If the soldiers didn’t want that food, then those places wouldn’t make money, and the military makes more money through those contracts.

        This is an entirely different problem. Why is your assumption that the base desire is for fast food and not out of a perceived more palatable alternative of a not shitty mess hall?

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          I am an average american and I am not used to those things. I go to work, and then I go home and cook a meal for my family.

          https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/survey-shows-how-often-americans-dine-out/

          There are other surveys with similar results, but the average American doesn’t do what you do, so, in this regard, you aren’t average.

          So then why do they need my tax dollars if they have all these lucrative deals with multinational billionaire companies? Although, this is beside the point that I don’t think any part of the U.S. Military should be “making money.” JFC

          The way you think things should be, and the way they are aren’t the same. I agree with you, our military shouldn’t be making money. However, in a capitalist society we provide our military service members and their families amenities.

          Why? I find that those establishments are neither healthy nor economical compared to a basic vegetables and rice meal.

          Cool. Teach all our soldiers and their families how to do that, or convince the military to.

          Then I would expect the bases to have facilities that reflect this fact. That is proper logistical thinking, after all.

          They do. They’re called restaurants.

          There are also contracted entertainment venues, banks, grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Should each military base provide their soldiers with unlimited gas to get around in their person vehicles, or are you okay with the gas stations? The better solution to that problem would be to upgrade public transportation, but I’m not going to get on a public forum and whine about gas stations on military bases in a society full of cars.

          This is an entirely different problem. Why is your assumption that the base desire is for fast food and not out of a perceived more palatable alternative of a not shitty mess hall?

          Because I have actually worked on a military base with soldiers. I didn’t say that their desire was for fast food. I said it was for basic services that they are used to and that are available to citizens outside of military bases. As I said before, you are complaining about a symptom of a much larger problem.