Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    18 days ago

    I’m not touching the first one, but the second I agree there’s a nieve understanding where it could be good. As soon as they start using their power to prevent others from gaining power (which always happens instantly) then there’s an issue. The more money you have, the easier it becomes to make money and keep others from making money, creating a situation where they’re subservient to you because they need resources you control to survive. There’s no freedom there. The only way it can work and be good is with ruthless government oversight protecting the people and redistributing accumulated wealth.

    • vestigeofgreen@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      18 days ago

      I’m not touching the first one

      I see Big Pet has gotten to you 😔

      There’s a danger of power accumulating in any system. But there are mitigations. The greatest threat to this fantasy system are barriers to entry. If everyone has their needs met, then there can be a minimum wage of 0. With the minimum wage at 0, I think barriers to entry will drop dramatically and it’ll be that much harder to protect “your” market share.

      If we get rid of “intellectual property”, barriers to entry drop even further. Switching costs can be minimized by open standards. But then we run into the harder questions of the physical barriers to entry (rent, commodities, factories) and regulatory barriers to entry.

      With a reasonably low barrier of entry, I hope that there will be enough centers of power that are intrinsically opposed to one another so that they cannot combine and oppress us all.

      And for any government, what’s to stop them from oppressing us instead? The people always will have some mechanisms of control but every system will have its own difficulties and weaknesses. And the relationship isn’t just companies becoming governments, but there are also governments becoming companies. In fact, I’d argue it is more common for governments to become companies than vice versa. Cuba’s GAESA is in hotels, while Myanmar’s Junta and the IRGC are pretty well diversified.

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        17 days ago

        I agree with you, but you just invented Socialism again. You get your needs provided and the means of production are available for you to produce with. That’s socialism.