Strange how ardent anticommunists often tend to be into things such as defending or downplaying European colonialism.
That’s what Gulags and other forms of re-education are for.
The “but their kings are the ones who sold them into slavery” has been the refrain of racist white guys who don’t think of themselves as racist. It really pisses me off because I don’t know enough to deboonk that talking point.
If it’s true, that’s an argument that the African societies in question were deeply flawed not that euros should be morally absolved for chattel slavery.
I mean it is true that African groups were deeply involved in the slave trade but that doesn’t absolve Europeans at all because without a purchaser then there wouldn’t have been other groups involved in it either.
This is why I don’t believe in propaganda and manipulation or even zionists buy off politicians and blah blah blah. Left to their own devices, they come up with shit like this grassroots level. I am sure they heard it somewhere, but it only confirmed what they already believed in their hearts.
I mean, there is some level of propaganda and manipulation. To there isn’t at all sounds like it’s just human nature that people come up with the most racist shit. But we believe that people can change if the material conditions change. If we can change the environment these people are in, they won’t come up with such horrible stuff. Or at least, after a few generations they might not.
I think people mostly align to the system that advances their material interests. That’s why upper middle class suburbia produces a lot more reactionaries that fantasize about doing things from the saw movies to “home invaders” (we know what race they are in the fantasies). That’s why the tech sector went right wing, even a lot of minorities once they started making 300k plus after being “woke” earlier.
Edit: i am willing to entertain other theories for my observations but recent politics have made me cynical.
I would say it’s always some of both. Otherwise class traitors wouldn’t exist. And in the case of like white supremacy, that is going back generations in being established and normalized, and has yet to be dismantled on a system level in its strongest bases (such as the US). Colonialism goes even further back than the establishment of white supremacy, if I’m not mistaken, and that hasn’t been fully dismantled either, only in some regions.
I would mostly agree. There are instances of class traitors among the bourgeoisie who have aided leftist causes. But perhaps there are other material forces at play for them too.
Slave markets in Libya… hmm I wonder which country killed the previous multi decade leader throwing it into destabilization
Kinda hilariously ironic to bring that up when trying to deflect blame from Europeans for slavery
We would run out of people
