I mean, there might be a secret AI technology that is so advanced to the point that it can mimic a real human, make posts and comments that looks like its written by a human and even intentionally doing speling mistakes to simulate human errors. How do we know that such AI hasn’t already infiltrated the internet and everything that you see is posted by this AI? If such AI actually exists, it’s probably so advanced that it almost never fails barring rare situations where there is an unexpected errrrrrrrrrorrrrrrrrrrr…

[Error: The program “Human_Simulation_AI” is unresponsive]

  • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    1 year ago

    Because such a massive simulation without players serves no purpose that’d justify the waste of the resources needed to run it.

      • speck@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        I saw a movie or, probably, an anime with this theme in the last year. People discover they are a simulation, manage to breach through to this race that is just lost in viewing virtual space. Wreck shit, go back.

      • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        If someone is both capable and willing to spend such massive amount of effort for such an experiment, he already has all the answers the experiment might provide. It’s like thinking NASA would create massive telescope and place it on an orbit, just to point it at Earth and record how cats hunt.

        Same with fun. Whoever possesses enough resources to waste them on “fun” alone, already has the access to way more interesting pleasures. It’s like thinking Jeff Bezos is going to buy a private island and buy a luxury bunker there, for the purpose of torturing cockroaches.

        • catreadingabook@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          It could still theoretically be that our reality is some kind of entertainment. For example, people enjoy playing The Sims. There are still active communities for the older versions even though there are newer, more engaging games out there. And more generally, some people prefer old games even though their computers have like 1000x the processing power needed to run it.

          If the reality we experience is a simulation, it could be for similar motivations, the hardware would be sophisticated but still a user will run whatever they prefer on it.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            We enjoy watching SIMS and playing video games, because our reality is too bleak and dark. It’s a form of escapism, mostly.

            Civilization that could create and sustain such a massive and complicated simulation as our reality, already knows ways to make the life interesting enough that it makes any form of SIMS-like entertainment obsolete.

        • 0x4E4F@lemmy.fmhy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          I never said any of this might not be true, I just said what if. The experiment idea seems more plausable to me. And why not make an experiment, as you said, if they’re that advanced, making this experiment would be a piece of cake to them, like us making experiments with ants or bees.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I simply observed that logic dictates such an experiment obsolete.

            Whoever has all the technology, resources and skills to conduct such a massive test, already has all the answers the experiment might provide. Beings capable of conducting such a test definitely have better questions to answer.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I know where my towel is, but again: the effort it takes to create and maintain such a simulation belongs to order so high, it no longer cares about such trivialities.

      • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        These are highly primitive and limited simulations, that follow basic patterns and can’t evolve much.

        Ours is a reality complicated, vast and chaotic. They can’t be compared.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            You said you “played” simulations. I pointed out that what you were playing can’t be compared to the complexity of our reality and therefore does not constitute a plausible argument.

            Just for the sake of clarity: I’m not attacking you, it’s just that what we can simulate and observe can’t be used as an argument in discussion concerning our reality. It’s apples & oranges. We operate on entirely different level of complexity to whatever we may simulate.

    • NotAPenguin@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      15
      ·
      1 year ago

      If it’s a simulation your imagination and understanding of the world (simulation) is limited and you have no idea how resource intensive it would be to run, perhaps we’re a kids toy for some being

      • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Again: the resources, the effort needed to create and sustain such a massive simulation just for fun, belong to civilization of so high advancement, that it renders the idea impossible.

        Beings being able to do it would be able to bypass any stage of infancy or childhood, because it’d be obsolete and pointless for them.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Because that’s how evolution works in intelligent species, or at least should - it leaves behind everything that’s no longer needed.

        • We, human beings, can simulate worlds more complicated than the real one. It doesn’t have to be like The Matrix. It could be like Dwarf Fortress. We wouldn’t know if we are the simulation because it would always seem real and complex to us, even if all the creatures running the simulation see are numbers/text.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            We, human beings, can simulate worlds more complicated than the real one.

            No, we can’t.

            We can’t even simulate less complicated worlds, but so alien that they follow entirely different “natural laws” to our own.

            Dwarf Fortress

            Dwarf Fortress is ridiculously primitive in comparison to our reality.

        • NotAPenguin@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          18
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          …?

          If it’s a simulation all the laws of physics and so on that you’re basing these theories on might not even exist outside the simulation.

          • Maharashtra@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            You can’t simulate a massive environment so alien to your own that they have nothing in common. You could answer “of course I can”, but all your arguments for that would be Russel’s Teapot.