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The website is attacking the users that made it the front page of the internet
No they aren’t. Those users have long since left Reddit lol
Yeah, it’s a playground for bots and misinformation now
i started visiting reddit back around 2009 when places like digg and fark kept linking over there. i liked it because it had a design that the average person wouldn’t like - the old design. they sorted comments in a new way that i liked. it’s been a slow boil, but look at the reddit monstrosity now. the redesign is puke-inducing, and there really isn’t any point in the vote sorting any more because people don’t upvote for visibility any more insomuch as just use it as like/dislike. there isn’t even any benefit in trying to point that out any more either, because today’s reddit users just don’t understand that approach to votes - and it really, really sucks.
Hmmm, perhaps people should start linking threads from here on reddit…
Believe it or not: straight to jail.
Heh. Don’t do that from an account that you like or has a lot of karma.
Reddit admins are a bunch of shit eating peckerwoods now.
you can try
I want to upvote this because I like it, but now I’m conflicted because I don’t want to inadvertently abuse the upvote mechanism.
yo - upvote it if you think it’s worth it for other people to see it, whether you agree with it or not. it might spark a debate. it might sway opinion. but either way, voting for visibility is the best thing to do on a SMALL forum like this. Appreciate lemmy while it’s still small!!!
AND fwiw - your upvotes should probably not be monitored. that would just be a huge dick move (sorry, it took me a sec).
Im not going to upvote something if I don’t agree with it. I understand the power of voting, it increases or decreases visibility. But I am not going to willingly increase the visibility of something I don’t agree with.
Considering e.g. a thoughtful, insightful, well-researched post with a conclusion we completely disagree with and feel is likely to lead to negative outcomes - but is still a perspective that should be understood if we want to be well rounded:
Binary up/downvotes have a really hard time of capturing what we want to see reflected as our assessment.
Edit: blessed be thy highly-voted child comment
As someone from the U.S., it seems like that concept has practically disappeared from the country. The nuances of civil debate, including the acknowledgement of differing opinions as valid, don’t exist in most of our popular media (both traditional and social.) We’ve been conditioned to react to things immediately and intensely using our emotions instead. There has been a slide toward this state for decades, but it’s come to the point where a lot of people genuinely struggle with separating “thing they personally disagree with/don’t like” from “thing that shouldn’t be said/heard/shared.”
(Not saying that’s the case with OP, just that it’s definitely a thing that’s been going on.)
that’s exactly the ideal! i know it feels weird these days to upvote something you don’t like, but it isn’t about what you like. it’s about what you’re showing approval for to the next person.
I don’t know if you like music like this, but it made me smile so why not share? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW48BueSJzo
Same as any social media site.
I feel like the admins over there really take for granted how much people care about Reddit. The more they degrade the sense of community, the more it continues to crumble until users feel that there’s no point in going back.
With how many posts are just pure AI generated rage bait, it’s becoming more clear by the day how little worth there is left on Reddit.
[deleted] is a common user name there!
Did they change the way things are formatted? Such as the [removed] comments now just appearing as [deleted]? Deleted would imply the users removed their own content while removed would imply the mods or admins removed it, at least that’s how things have always been. However, I have only been seeing a sea of [deleted] lately.
After the API kerfuffle, a lot of users who left also used tools to completely erase their content from the site, which explains the sea of [deleted] posts and users. You may also see comments and text body posts that are full of incoherent gibberish because one of the tools didn’t delete the content in the normal way, it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
I used a tool that did this. I also used it on purpose because I figured it would make the content more difficult to farm. Lots of software doesn’t actually delete anything when you delete it, but it’s a lot more work to put versioning in and then you’d have to go search the version history to find a version that wasn’t mangled to farm it…so that’ll all theoretically make it more difficult for them to find what I originally wrote.
i just ended up deleted all my comments on my last 2 accts, so they cant be farmed, unless reddit undeletes them. wonder when reddit is going to pull a FB ressurection, revives your account but controlled by AI bots for right wing disinformation.
I don’t think they care, they already got their payday by going public.
they get thier money from google and openai.
I think the USA has taken a deep dive in international standing since January 2025, and Reddit is a USA-flavored USA-centered content publisher in terms of front page community. Things were pretty anti-USA with all the support of Israel in 2024, but now in 2025 with Elon Musk being the center of all USA society attention every minute of every day, sites like Reddit are being turned away from (or people only reading to mock the USA) - where the HiveMind is extremely USA technology consumerism / technology lifestyle worship.
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025. It’s tech addiction as the primary religion on Reddit. And I think those outside the USA are sick of that machine lust / machine mind behavior of Elon Musk, Zuck, Amazon, etc.
“Technopoly is a state of culture. It is also a state of mind. It consists in the deification of technology, which means that the culture seeks its authorization in technology, finds its satisfactions in technology, and takes its orders from technology.” ― Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, 1992
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025.
By funding you mean resuming advertising on the platform, right? I am not aware that Apple is financing X directly. In the end it is money in Musk‘s pockets, I know, but the distinction is worth pointing out nonetheless.
By funding you mean resuming advertising on the platform, right?
yes.
Reddit is historically US tech workers. When the userbase was younger they were still some what anti-establishment. They have gotten more institutionalized as the years have gone by. They support big tech. They support the tech bro oligarchs. Their livelihood is tied to the fate of the US oligarchs. They are the sycophants. The yes-men.
Anyone who has been around before the tech oligarch era can attest to how different things are. What we have today isn’t anywhere close to the type of anarchist, anti-establishment type of nerds of the older internet eras. Today those types of people are all but extinct.
As you said, nobody actually talks critically about the tech industry. It’s certainly not in the way people used to. The term “walled garden” has long ago fallen out of the internet lexicon. The tech monopoly took root. The dominant narrative became of those in support of single closed ecosystems.
The tech nerd sycophants took over. There haven’t been competitors so long. There’s only one reddit. Only one twitter. Only one facebook. Only one youtube. And the prevailing mindset of tech is in support of this. Nobody speaks out against it. These companies have written the paychecks and funded the retirement of all those nerds.
I rarely hear about apple at all. And most of the time it’s people bitching about them make the space bar a suppository
I rarely hear about apple at all.
It’s the influence on people’s behavior that’s far more my concern than the faith I have in people expressing self-awareness they have in terms of what they say (what you hear them say). Absolute addicts to technology can often not discuss their extreme addictions. You can witness the behavior all over in public since year 2010.
“One characteristic of those who live in a Technopoly is that they are largely unaware of both the origins and the effects of their technologies.” ― Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, 1992
The USA population and society has really lost all sense of what life was like before there was a constant notification stream of antics from billionaires. People are absolutely engrossed in the screen game of LOL at Donald Trump and Elon Musk so much they have no sense of life before 2008. There are huge numbers of people in March 2025 behaving as if Donald Trump is a new event and have lost every sense of him having been elected and in office in 2017.
13 years there and millions in karma. I left when they chose to become Zionists and hate-mongers
worldnews was a plague, i had to block that sub. i was also reminding people in pics sub how the pict was about gaza and it wash bashing on biden pushing propaganda, and also gaza conflicts in the past had very little effect on elections, i just block and report those people. mostly it was inappropiate for that sub too.
I never understood WorldNews. I said back in November pretty plainly that Trump won and so I fear that America would eventually leave or attack NATO. I said I was afraid that Trump would side with Russia outright. That we would abandon our allies in the Pacific, too. That our inaction would create a gap for China to fill. That the gap might be big enough to embolden China who then might make moves on Taiwan.
And I was downvoted (which is fine) but the comments I got were kind of bewildering. The people who engaged with me were trying to convince me that Trump would never side with Russia and there is no evidence ever of this.
And of course here we are now. And all of these things are happening.
The whole Gaza thing you mention—I understand the outrage—but I wonder how much of it online was manufactured in places like Pics because of the election.
Seeing the conversations here on Lemmy makes me think…there’s something very weird going on on Reddit. I’ve rode out Reddit drama over the past 12 years. This is not the narwhal at midnight website. This is something very dark.
I still see active accounts over a decade old
rather suspicious since only bots have those types of accts, i have a hunch reddit is actually accessing those accts or allowing bots to take over the accts. i heard people couldnt log back into thier old accts
There are bots too but you can tell a bot. Usually anyway.
They didn’t all leave. It’s not a hive mind. Especially since reddit got popular and the original base got fragmented and whatever.
Reddit bad!
Now where are my upvotes?
I am literally here, now, commenting on this because I am reading the article to this on reddit and … I can’t believe they are going to start punishing upvotes! That is the final stray for Reddit. Its dead. Gone the way of Digg. I am literally here now to start moving over to Lemmy.
I just realized - and must keep in mind, with a federated platform like lemmy, all of your upvotes and downvotes are broadcasted across the network. ANYONE could track your upvotes and downvotes in THIS system.
I had no idea how much I valued voting privacy.
You don’t have voting privacy here on Lemmy though, and theoretically instance admins could “punish” you based on voting patterns.
But decentralization helps that
If an instance becomes oppressive, nothing is stopping you from going to a new one. You can’t do that with Reddit. Let’s say my instance Lemmy.ca becomes awful, I can make a new account on another and still comment on this community. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse.
On the other hand, harvesting that sort of data is as simple as creating an instance and Federating with whatever sub you want to spy on
whatever sub you want to spy on
Is it really considered spying if the sub is pretty much shouting the information freely to whoever wants to request it?
I have intercepted this communication to say yes, it’s still spying! 🕵️
So keep that in mind when interacting with the fediverse
These are public forums, it’s almost the point for things to be public. You could argue that votes shouldn’t be part of it, but ultimately due to the decentralized nature they must be communicated to all servers
I mean any organization that’s a risk to use my data maliciously is one that can afford buying it, so I actually prefer this to my data being equally easy to access but reddit gets paid for it.
They already do, some instances or communities will ban you for downvoting everything.
Which is kinda fair, why are you here if everything displeases you?
Honestly, I don’t even like the downvote/upvote system because it promotes censorship and a lot of the times it’s just an agree/disagree button. I feel that no matter how right or wrong someone is, they should always be able to express their opinion in a civil manner (obviously there are mods for removing rule breaking posts/comments). Downvoting just kills any discussion.
Not really, it’s removing the comments that isn’t violating is the real problem. There are definitely comments that should be downvoted for many reasons
You are not allowed to even nod at a reddit article anymore. The voting system on lemmy is broken though. Your votes shouldn’t follow you.
There are upsides and downsides to everything. Open votes means it’s harder to manufacture consent. That’s something someone on Reddit could do, where they bot vote their own content to the top of the feed and nobody would be none the wiser because you don’t know how and when someone voted. And it’s not really a “could do”, it’s something that (at least a few years ago) happened regularly.
But on Lemmy voting is open so if someone starts up a bot farm to push their content to the top it is (relatively) easy to discover.
Banning for mentioning Luigi is just absurd. Up voting has been a thing for a while , they just extended what it violated. Before this, up voting excessively or so soon after account creation flags you as a bot
What’s Digg?
Digg was a news and comment aggregation site before Reddit existed. It was pretty fantastic for its time. Reddit is like Digg on steroids.
Funny enough, Digg is making a comeback
This article fails to mention that Huffman has previously praised Musk and how he runs Twitter.
Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow.
More importantly he’s a doomsday prepper with fucked up views:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich
I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.
If I end up on top after the apocalypse I’ll go out of my way to get him as a slave.
#EnslaveSteveHuffman
I planned on catching him for sport, followed by slowly serving him up like kebab to poorer after the apocalypse.
hunger games.
In Hunger Games they usually die swiftly, in this situation he’s being kept alive as long as possible.
I have no idea what you’re about but just based on this alone I’d let you share my tire barricade
Nice, thanks. Because the only way I’d survive the apocalypse would be as part of a community, I’m not exactly the warlord type. And plenty of people in the thread are on board with the same idea, so I’m fine with sharing spez.
What a tiny little apocalypse fuckbag. Fuck Spez.
YES!! THANK YOU!!
huffman caught whiff of what’s happening, and this is just a stupid empty move to stir people up and try to cause chaos. everything that’s happening is so that people can manipulate and exploit investments. i got my second (or third? fourth?) permanent ban for bringing it up… well probably - i don’t know because reddit removes the comment it bans you for and doesn’t let you see it. so fucking done.
I might actually loathe him more than Musk.
they want something like a 4400 future, if you watched the show basically its the rich/wealthy enclaves in thier perfect city, while outside is like madmax/desolated. add in a little time travelling, superpowers and body possession arcs. i dont think it lasted many seasons.
The entire system wants you to forget about Luigi and the entire issue. Sort of memory hole it like so many other things and let them punish him in secret. So it’s no surprise Reddit and others will try to Streisand it.
Exactly. That’s the best part. There would have been a Luigi article every once in a while giving an update or whatever. Nothing is going on with him rn. But blocking his name is getting everyone talking about him again, and some are switching platforms because of it.
Streisand effect, much like how Msm was trying to paint as a degenerate killer, and made people find out why he did it
They have been suppressing Luigi news every chance it pops up
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Please link directly to articles, and provide archive links in the body or comments. I’m not locking or removing this at this time, but please take note in the future.
Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi
We have free speech here.
Kinda. We have a bunch of small instances each with its own set of rules/norms. Lemmy.ml for example is not going to take a very different approach to moderation then lemmynsfw…
Everyone says that, but I haven’t run into any issues and .ml is the main one I use
You’re lucky! I did run into issues.
And you might never. But lemmynsfw is a porn instance whereas .ml is not. Hence different goals for moderation.
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Since you deleted your comment within the last 15 minutes of posting it, it still shows up in my inbox.
“Try saying something bad about China”
Okay.
The CCP is a blight on humanity, just like the IDF/Israeli government, Russia, and now including the US. Fuck China, I’ll never set foot in that country (except maybe Hong Kong) if I ever had the opportunity.
But in an .ml sub, like !worldnews@lemmy.ml or whatever they have over there, or even the official announcements sub. Bonus points if you reply to a federated Hexbear user with that.
Now say that in a .ml-run community
Winnie the Pooh sucks my ass.
Reminds me of the HD decryption key fiasco on digg. Everyone just kept posting it over and over in every thread. Moderators started banning people. People started jumping ship to Reddit.
It’s what caused the first digg exodus, with the better known redesign failure being the second.
It’s kind of sad that it isn’t as pronounced as it was on Digg.
I don’t get it. Reddit’s so much more egregious than digg was - why haven’t more users jumped ship? the soul of the platform was broken with the API change, yet most users stayed, and the ones who did leave haven’t shown up here.
was Lemmy just not ready?
Because the user experience didn’t change, so it wqsn’t obvious unless you kept up with specific news.
Also, it’s still where all the porn is.
at least on reddit people are complaining about the shadowbanning thats been going on, they said it was also unearned and criticized teh admins why were some accts shadowbanned for 10years,.
They’ve also really amped up the content moderation bots and are on the warpath for anything perceived to be bot accounts. Shadow bans are being given out for accounts that are hours old and haven’t even posted.
If you’d only said it three times, you would’ve summoned him. So close!
(L)
Finally, Reddit can die
I was one of the many MANY victims of unjust banning, and I just want my niche communities here, all the weird expansion and transformation porn I like, DBD Shitposting, and The Sims 4 troublshooting… ahh…
I settled over here when the API Desaster happend. I lost some communities, but I found new ones. Rarley, I have to engage with reddit for troubleshooting, but I treat it like any forum that I am not registered in, get my info and leave again.
You’ll settle in and you’ll find the places you like here. And then you can always try to start a community of your own and see if it sticks. Many don’t, but some do.
Cardinal rule of being a reddit refugee on lemmy: if you want a specific community from reddit that doesnt exist here already, start it.
I was too, but it was Feb 12-13 I got banned, unjust one of my acc received a 3 day temp ban, but simultaneously it triggered reddit to ban 5 of my other accts site wide, but the ban message never indicated what was the actual violation but the generic" You violated several accounts policies" which made think it was entirely automated
I want my Fandoms and porn here. The niche stuff is the only reason why reddit has any appeal anymore.
Corporate overlords silencing discussion while selling your data to advertisers. Classic digital fascism.
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news@lemmy.ml restricts saying anything even vaguely anti-russian in a time when Russia is effectively trying destroy the west. At the same time, they’re allowing rather blatant anti-west sentiment. And I’m not saying that that’s fundamentally bad, but rather that there is no such thing as unbiased.
Reddit sure sucks and needs to die though. But their bias of not supporting murder is somewhat understandable.
I saw the Hammer and Sickle on lemmy.ml and that was enough for me to know that they were probably Campists and Stalinists lol.
I guess it’s good Lemmy has the different instances(?) even tho it’s a bit annoying.
The beauty is that you can just block the annoying instances. I’ve blocked lemmy.ml so I don’t see their communities, but can still see their users commenting on posts.
Yes but its better that if people who are easily misled find .ml they don’t just see a bunch of propaganda with noone arguing about it. It makes it look more normal. The best thing is to constantly call them idiots and accuse them of solvent abuse. That way when gullible idiots come across it they know it’s stupid. A lot of people need to be told.
I actually suspected that this was part of all this.
Real humans with lots of karma, some of it perhaps built up from before they started fucking with karma? Who might say something other than what the paid sponsors want?
I think this is an intentional move to try and get rid of anyone with any authenticity who isn’t a bot or a shill.
It’s just my little conspiracy. People with accounts like my old one would be very undesirable (lots of karma, ancient account age, not a capitalist stooge.)
Maybe? They could do that anyway. It seems like drama to lure people back to me. The whole thing was written like an advertising in a warped way. Like those ads that make it to the front page that are slightly making fun of their product, but are ultimately advertising.
Not that anyone cares but this same shit is happening on Tictok as well. Anything pro Lulgi, PaIestine or anti lsraeI is banned. I assume it’s the same on Meta’s other properties as well. Straight up fasclsm!
Good riddance to shitty platforms
Tiktok was seen sucking up to trump as of recently to stay on good terms, otherwise they would’ve allowed all the anti stuff
Now why would Steve Huffman be afraid of Luigi?
luigi doesnt look like an alien.
I hope Reddit dies! Free Luigi!
oh, it won’t… it’ll turn into a weird cross between thedonald and 9gag in a few months. mark my words.
thedonaldgag?
oh jeez… someone please grab that domain before they get any ideas…
i know this may sound counterintuitive, but just look at they way they changed their minds about electric cars.
Gagdonald?
Dude something very weird is going on on Reddit. I’ve been through it with them for 12 years and this is like nothing I’ve ever seen.
I finally deleted the terrible Reddit app when my feed was blasted with repeated comments that “Reddit is far left and the left are domestic terrorists.” Sorry what?
These very weird not based in reality comments are posted almost verbatim in every thread. These people usually never respond to conversation.
It’s very very weird
I think your prediction is probably spot on. Reddit already feels like incel 9gag with a bunch of Russians pretending to be American college students.
Edit: oh if that’s your optimistic take then oh wow haha I am staying here on Lemmy I’ll start posting too
that’s my optimistic projection, i don’t see it going any better anyotherwise.
please stay. we need your doots. this is freedom from reddit.
I noticed the bots picked way way up after many sub reddits banned links to a certain platform. I think some of the bots are his but not all It’s a bots farm free for all. And I expect the right to take it over like they did x.
This is exactly what I expect to happen. With a little x mixed in.
Be careful, .world mods are likely to bad you for calling for action
But that’s not a call to action. Or is that the joke? Lol
You cannot wish for anything to die on .world, especially if it is a person or a corporate-person. The “centrist” .world mods look down on anything that makes capitalism or republicans look bad.
The instance operators are just trying not to get legally accountable for it? Call for murder is prosecutable in many countries. Also in the Netherlands where that instance is located.
Wait, but which .world mods? I’m technically also one of those and I don’t think that way. lol
Mostly news, world, and politics. In that order. But, it has been a lot better since the FlyingAsshat got his pink slip.
Ohh I can see that with World News mods. Yep, can attest some of them are dipshits. That’s why I have them blocked and their sub too.
i was reading the same post on reddit, people agree with the enshittifcation process going on,.
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What’s Reddit?
Another corporate shithole
Zombified Lemmy ancestor - - it’s on the net.
Cries in MySpace.
Gonna post some emo song to my Netlog
Just another place for porn.
This is the only proper answer
Best porn on Lemmy?
That is definitely the main reason i havent deleted the app to effectively evade my IP ban received for speaking facts regarding the Palestinian occupation. Because i have so many hot big tittied cam girl accounts stared on the side panel.
