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The website is attacking the users that made it the front page of the internet
No they aren’t. Those users have long since left Reddit lol
Yeah, it’s a playground for bots and misinformation now
i started visiting reddit back around 2009 when places like digg and fark kept linking over there. i liked it because it had a design that the average person wouldn’t like - the old design. they sorted comments in a new way that i liked. it’s been a slow boil, but look at the reddit monstrosity now. the redesign is puke-inducing, and there really isn’t any point in the vote sorting any more because people don’t upvote for visibility any more insomuch as just use it as like/dislike. there isn’t even any benefit in trying to point that out any more either, because today’s reddit users just don’t understand that approach to votes - and it really, really sucks.
Hmmm, perhaps people should start linking threads from here on reddit…
Believe it or not: straight to jail.
you can try
Heh. Don’t do that from an account that you like or has a lot of karma.
Reddit admins are a bunch of shit eating peckerwoods now.
I want to upvote this because I like it, but now I’m conflicted because I don’t want to inadvertently abuse the upvote mechanism.
yo - upvote it if you think it’s worth it for other people to see it, whether you agree with it or not. it might spark a debate. it might sway opinion. but either way, voting for visibility is the best thing to do on a SMALL forum like this. Appreciate lemmy while it’s still small!!!
AND fwiw - your upvotes should probably not be monitored. that would just be a huge dick move (sorry, it took me a sec).
Im not going to upvote something if I don’t agree with it. I understand the power of voting, it increases or decreases visibility. But I am not going to willingly increase the visibility of something I don’t agree with.
Considering e.g. a thoughtful, insightful, well-researched post with a conclusion we completely disagree with and feel is likely to lead to negative outcomes - but is still a perspective that should be understood if we want to be well rounded:
Binary up/downvotes have a really hard time of capturing what we want to see reflected as our assessment.
Edit: blessed be thy highly-voted child comment
Same as any social media site.
I feel like the admins over there really take for granted how much people care about Reddit. The more they degrade the sense of community, the more it continues to crumble until users feel that there’s no point in going back.
With how many posts are just pure AI generated rage bait, it’s becoming more clear by the day how little worth there is left on Reddit.
[deleted] is a common user name there!
Did they change the way things are formatted? Such as the [removed] comments now just appearing as [deleted]? Deleted would imply the users removed their own content while removed would imply the mods or admins removed it, at least that’s how things have always been. However, I have only been seeing a sea of [deleted] lately.
After the API kerfuffle, a lot of users who left also used tools to completely erase their content from the site, which explains the sea of [deleted] posts and users. You may also see comments and text body posts that are full of incoherent gibberish because one of the tools didn’t delete the content in the normal way, it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
it simply edited the content to be a bunch of random gibberish.
I used a tool that did this. I also used it on purpose because I figured it would make the content more difficult to farm. Lots of software doesn’t actually delete anything when you delete it, but it’s a lot more work to put versioning in and then you’d have to go search the version history to find a version that wasn’t mangled to farm it…so that’ll all theoretically make it more difficult for them to find what I originally wrote.
i just ended up deleted all my comments on my last 2 accts, so they cant be farmed, unless reddit undeletes them. wonder when reddit is going to pull a FB ressurection, revives your account but controlled by AI bots for right wing disinformation.
I don’t think they care, they already got their payday by going public.
they get thier money from google and openai.
I think the USA has taken a deep dive in international standing since January 2025, and Reddit is a USA-flavored USA-centered content publisher in terms of front page community. Things were pretty anti-USA with all the support of Israel in 2024, but now in 2025 with Elon Musk being the center of all USA society attention every minute of every day, sites like Reddit are being turned away from (or people only reading to mock the USA) - where the HiveMind is extremely USA technology consumerism / technology lifestyle worship.
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025. It’s tech addiction as the primary religion on Reddit. And I think those outside the USA are sick of that machine lust / machine mind behavior of Elon Musk, Zuck, Amazon, etc.
“Technopoly is a state of culture. It is also a state of mind. It consists in the deification of technology, which means that the culture seeks its authorization in technology, finds its satisfactions in technology, and takes its orders from technology.” ― Neil Postman, Technopoly: The Surrender of Culture to Technology, 1992
For example, I never witness anyone on Reddit criticize Apple Computers for funding Twitter / X in 2025.
By funding you mean resuming advertising on the platform, right? I am not aware that Apple is financing X directly. In the end it is money in Musk‘s pockets, I know, but the distinction is worth pointing out nonetheless.
By funding you mean resuming advertising on the platform, right?
yes.
I still see active accounts over a decade old
rather suspicious since only bots have those types of accts, i have a hunch reddit is actually accessing those accts or allowing bots to take over the accts. i heard people couldnt log back into thier old accts
13 years there and millions in karma. I left when they chose to become Zionists and hate-mongers
worldnews was a plague, i had to block that sub. i was also reminding people in pics sub how the pict was about gaza and it wash bashing on biden pushing propaganda, and also gaza conflicts in the past had very little effect on elections, i just block and report those people. mostly it was inappropiate for that sub too.
I never understood WorldNews. I said back in November pretty plainly that Trump won and so I fear that America would eventually leave or attack NATO. I said I was afraid that Trump would side with Russia outright. That we would abandon our allies in the Pacific, too. That our inaction would create a gap for China to fill. That the gap might be big enough to embolden China who then might make moves on Taiwan.
And I was downvoted (which is fine) but the comments I got were kind of bewildering. The people who engaged with me were trying to convince me that Trump would never side with Russia and there is no evidence ever of this.
And of course here we are now. And all of these things are happening.
The whole Gaza thing you mention—I understand the outrage—but I wonder how much of it online was manufactured in places like Pics because of the election.
Seeing the conversations here on Lemmy makes me think…there’s something very weird going on on Reddit. I’ve rode out Reddit drama over the past 12 years. This is not the narwhal at midnight website. This is something very dark.
Reddit bad!
Now where are my upvotes?
This article fails to mention that Huffman has previously praised Musk and how he runs Twitter.
Huffman said he saw Musk’s handling of Twitter, which he purchased last year, as an example for Reddit to follow.
More importantly he’s a doomsday prepper with fucked up views:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/01/30/doomsday-prep-for-the-super-rich
I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.
If I end up on top after the apocalypse I’ll go out of my way to get him as a slave.
#EnslaveSteveHuffman
I planned on catching him for sport, followed by slowly serving him up like kebab to poorer after the apocalypse.
hunger games.
In Hunger Games they usually die swiftly, in this situation he’s being kept alive as long as possible.
I have no idea what you’re about but just based on this alone I’d let you share my tire barricade
What a tiny little apocalypse fuckbag. Fuck Spez.
YES!! THANK YOU!!
huffman caught whiff of what’s happening, and this is just a stupid empty move to stir people up and try to cause chaos. everything that’s happening is so that people can manipulate and exploit investments. i got my second (or third? fourth?) permanent ban for bringing it up… well probably - i don’t know because reddit removes the comment it bans you for and doesn’t let you see it. so fucking done.
they want something like a 4400 future, if you watched the show basically its the rich/wealthy enclaves in thier perfect city, while outside is like madmax/desolated. add in a little time travelling, superpowers and body possession arcs. i dont think it lasted many seasons.
Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi
We have free speech here.
Kinda. We have a bunch of small instances each with its own set of rules/norms. Lemmy.ml for example is not going to take a very different approach to moderation then lemmynsfw…
Everyone says that, but I haven’t run into any issues and .ml is the main one I use
You’re lucky! I did run into issues.
And you might never. But lemmynsfw is a porn instance whereas .ml is not. Hence different goals for moderation.
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Since you deleted your comment within the last 15 minutes of posting it, it still shows up in my inbox.
“Try saying something bad about China”
Okay.
The CCP is a blight on humanity, just like the IDF/Israeli government, Russia, and now including the US. Fuck China, I’ll never set foot in that country (except maybe Hong Kong) if I ever had the opportunity.
But in an .ml sub, like !worldnews@lemmy.ml or whatever they have over there, or even the official announcements sub. Bonus points if you reply to a federated Hexbear user with that.
Winnie the Pooh sucks my ass.
Reminds me of the HD decryption key fiasco on digg. Everyone just kept posting it over and over in every thread. Moderators started banning people. People started jumping ship to Reddit.
It’s what caused the first digg exodus, with the better known redesign failure being the second.
It’s kind of sad that it isn’t as pronounced as it was on Digg.
I don’t get it. Reddit’s so much more egregious than digg was - why haven’t more users jumped ship? the soul of the platform was broken with the API change, yet most users stayed, and the ones who did leave haven’t shown up here.
was Lemmy just not ready?
at least on reddit people are complaining about the shadowbanning thats been going on, they said it was also unearned and criticized teh admins why were some accts shadowbanned for 10years,.
They’ve also really amped up the content moderation bots and are on the warpath for anything perceived to be bot accounts. Shadow bans are being given out for accounts that are hours old and haven’t even posted.
If you’d only said it three times, you would’ve summoned him. So close!
I actually suspected that this was part of all this.
Real humans with lots of karma, some of it perhaps built up from before they started fucking with karma? Who might say something other than what the paid sponsors want?
I think this is an intentional move to try and get rid of anyone with any authenticity who isn’t a bot or a shill.
It’s just my little conspiracy. People with accounts like my old one would be very undesirable (lots of karma, ancient account age, not a capitalist stooge.)
Maybe? They could do that anyway. It seems like drama to lure people back to me. The whole thing was written like an advertising in a warped way. Like those ads that make it to the front page that are slightly making fun of their product, but are ultimately advertising.
Now why would Steve Huffman be afraid of Luigi?
luigi doesnt look like an alien.
I am literally here, now, commenting on this because I am reading the article to this on reddit and … I can’t believe they are going to start punishing upvotes! That is the final stray for Reddit. Its dead. Gone the way of Digg. I am literally here now to start moving over to Lemmy.
I just realized - and must keep in mind, with a federated platform like lemmy, all of your upvotes and downvotes are broadcasted across the network. ANYONE could track your upvotes and downvotes in THIS system.
I had no idea how much I valued voting privacy.
You don’t have voting privacy here on Lemmy though, and theoretically instance admins could “punish” you based on voting patterns.
But decentralization helps that
If an instance becomes oppressive, nothing is stopping you from going to a new one. You can’t do that with Reddit. Let’s say my instance Lemmy.ca becomes awful, I can make a new account on another and still comment on this community. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse.
On the other hand, harvesting that sort of data is as simple as creating an instance and Federating with whatever sub you want to spy on
They already do, some instances or communities will ban you for downvoting everything.
Which is kinda fair, why are you here if everything displeases you?
You are not allowed to even nod at a reddit article anymore. The voting system on lemmy is broken though. Your votes shouldn’t follow you.
I hope Reddit dies! Free Luigi!
oh, it won’t… it’ll turn into a weird cross between thedonald and 9gag in a few months. mark my words.
thedonaldgag?
oh jeez… someone please grab that domain before they get any ideas…
i know this may sound counterintuitive, but just look at they way they changed their minds about electric cars.
Gagdonald?
Be careful, .world mods are likely to bad you for calling for action
But that’s not a call to action. Or is that the joke? Lol
You cannot wish for anything to die on .world, especially if it is a person or a corporate-person. The “centrist” .world mods look down on anything that makes capitalism or republicans look bad.
Wait, but which .world mods? I’m technically also one of those and I don’t think that way. lol
Mostly news, world, and politics. In that order. But, it has been a lot better since the FlyingAsshat got his pink slip.
Ohh I can see that with World News mods. Yep, can attest some of them are dipshits. That’s why I have them blocked and their sub too.
The entire system wants you to forget about Luigi and the entire issue. Sort of memory hole it like so many other things and let them punish him in secret. So it’s no surprise Reddit and others will try to Streisand it.
Not that anyone cares but this same shit is happening on Tictok as well. Anything pro Lulgi, PaIestine or anti lsraeI is banned. I assume it’s the same on Meta’s other properties as well. Straight up fasclsm!
Good riddance to shitty platforms
Mod:
Please link directly to articles, and provide archive links in the body or comments. I’m not locking or removing this at this time, but please take note in the future.
Hopefully we do none of that.
You can always switch instances if your lemmy server implements policies you don’t like
Yep, you can’t control Lemmy, because it’s free, open source, and decentralized.
The only way to control it is to make its users go away, and whaddya know, we’re still growing!
You can switch instances?
Yep!
You can’t port your about but you can easily create a new account. I think that’s what they meant by that.
Ah, I see.
But can you know that what you see through your instance is being manipulated?
Wouldn’t be that hard to archive and validate your posts and it’s so easy on lemmy to leave a bad instance.
easy on lemmy to leave a bad instance
Too damn easy! That’s also why I have a couple alts lying around in case I need to jump ship again.
That… doesn’t really answer the question. So it’s relatively easy to leave, but how would you know that you needed to in the first place?
If the voting of posts on an instance were being manipulated, or the visibility of certain sources or users, or if commercial influences were affecting administrative decisions or moderator behavior, how would you know?
How do you discover that you are in bubble? That the information being presented to you is intentionally skewed in order to project a narrative?
How do you exit Plato’s cave if you don’t know that you are in it?
I thought it was really interesting seeing someone get banned from lemm.ee and they were able to still access other instances.
They can just make a new account on another instance and come back anyway, it’s like whack-a-mole.
The moment I got permabanned for “threatening” fascists is the moment when Reddit died to me.
Happens to me on .world every month
Now I’m curious about what you said. Lol
“Depose <name of terrible person>”
Are you saying you’ve been permabanned on .world for saying “Depose Donald”?
i was reading the same post on reddit, people agree with the enshittifcation process going on,.
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I spoke with the moderation team for r/PublicFreakout, who told me: “It started with r/comics.” In late January, a cartoonist was permanently banned from the comics subreddit for “Nazi apologia,” after posting a comment dismissing the idea that Musk had made a Nazi salute at the inauguration (a gesture that, notably, had inspired a wide swath of moderators to block X links from their subreddits). Musk found that cartoonist’s tweet and called his ban “insane,” inspiring his followers to assail r/comics.
That’s some bull shit. Well we are seeing a serge. So come on down! The fediverse will talk when reddit won’t allow you.
