• Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee
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        1 day ago

        That’s not true. They definitely should do way more to help the working class but the numbers show that the economy in general is better under them.

            • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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              Wealthy people have enough money to spread around and diversify. Even if their money in US market is in red, their money in European and Asian markets is in green. And that’s without taking gold or silver into account.

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        Uh, yes. We could talk about unemployment numbers, but even if we did (and i have a distinct feeling you’re being vague because you don’t plan to) those numbers aren’t by a long shot the only metric we use measuring the economy.

        In fact a lot of ways “the economy” is measured doesn’t take into account things the average citizen cares about, like cost of living etc. hence my use of the widespread pejorative "rich peoples yacht money

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      Nonsense. Disappointed this gets upvotes.

      How the hell are the democrats the party of enriching the wealthy when compared to the fucking R’s?? I mean fucking hell have any of you ever read a book or even glanced at historic and current R policy?

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        24 hours ago

        How the hell are the democrats the party of enriching the wealthy when compared to the fucking R’s??

        glances at the Obama administration unprecedented market bull run while foreclosures were rampant and low-income poverty surged

        The Americans, in typical capitalist extravagance, insist on having two right-wing parties instead of one.

        I mean fucking hell have any of you ever read a book or even glanced at historic and current R policy?

        Democrats sow, Republicans reap. But the line only ever consistently goes up for the already wealthy. Passive income dominates wage growth. Assets prices outrun revenues thanks to our investor-friendly monetary policies. And the Piketty R > G math, with ®ate of investment return > (g)ross domestic profit yield, leads to a steady consolidation of property in the hands of a shrinking ultra-wealthy minority under both parties.

        Yes, democrats do periodically have to save capitalism from itself - for which the bourgeois are perpetually aggrieved. But what did Obama do when he was handed half the financial sector on a platter by the outgoing Bush Administration? Did he properly title homeowners who had already paid in mortgage several multiples of the face value of their homes? Did he cancel a bunch of outstanding student loan debt, so that college students weren’t perpetually hobbled by interest payments on debt? Did he universalize Medicaid or even deliver on a public option to evade insurance company graft?

        No. He gave the bankers their crooked banks back for a vanishingly tiny ROI. He forgave the debts of major lenders, bailed out executives, propped up stock prices of major hedge funds and corporate institutions, subsidized private insurance to the benefit of the insurers, downsized Medicaid during the Government Shutdown fight, increased school privatization at the primary level, and did literally nothing for his most zealous base of supporters - educated professionals.

        And then his party got absolutely washed in the subsequent three election cycles, culminating in the nation’s most incestuous pedophile taking the White House in 2016.

        And that was Obama, the closest thing to a progressive the party has produced since LBJ. Carter, Clinton, and Biden were even worse.

      • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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        24 hours ago

        Realistically the right makes things worse for the 90%, the centre makes things worse for the 90% but slower. At least in recent history.

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        20 hours ago

        I’m disappointed in you too friend, but how is that effin pertinent?

        Discussion and disagreement are what boards are for, not clown ass comments like “muh disappointment” lolol lemmy get a load of this guy

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        I don’t think its “compared” to the Rs but just in general they are good for “rich ppl yacht” money. Your instant move to compare the two parties (making bad policy OK by comparing it to “OH FUCK” policy) is why the usa is in the state it is now.

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          Interesting. I didn’t know I had a say in US politics being 5000 miles away and not a citizen. I’ll be sure to smarten my ideas up. Send marine force 2 or whatever to pick me up and I’ll sort that shit show out for you once I kick trump in the balls/face.

          Also there’s literally only one other option so yea of course it’s compared to the opposition. That’s how the system is setup.

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            Are you sure you are replying to the correct comment? I am not american and yes I too have no say in their system, but “less bad” is still bad.

            Not sure why you think commenting on geopolitics and other nations economic policy means you need to fall to the same BS they have. Even less that making comments somehow gives us a say.

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              Yes I am sure. You suggested my rejection of your idea and comparison is why the US is like it is now. Hence the joke.

              Okay fine. They’re both bad. Which would you rather have won in 2024 now?

              I think you’ve fallen for a classic ‘if left/centre not perfect might as well burn the house down’ fallacy personally but we’ll agree to disagree.

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              Bitch please. Who’d want to be a US citizen. The others are locked in there with tools like you.

              Meanwhile in free roaming European: were laughing at you morons for electing a king.

              And what makes you think you need to be an inmate to talk about the joint?

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                English is your second language so maybe you missed how whether you wish to be a citizen or not was not my point, your definite ignorance was.

                Stop trying to save face, you have nothing to say to me and the fact you’re still yappin is pathetic

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                  20 hours ago

                  It’s a place for discussion as you said. If you can’t handle it without getting angry and whining maybe go back to Reddit.

                  English is my first language. I was a US citizen. I gave it up for tax reasons when I left.

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                    my first language

                    And now you’ve got no excuse. Should kept that to yerself dogg.

                    Aaaand now ya pop out the old ‘you mad’ chestnut, after showing erryone how mad youz are aaaahahaha 😆 Fuck me!! I won’t block you, cuz i just gotta see what funny ass shit you got next, but I’m done responding unless you try a bit harder.