• cactopuses@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    I mean an Americano is just watered down espresso and AFAIK was coined to make fun of the Americans.

      • Whitebrow@lemmy.world
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        8 hours ago

        Means you had (likely) cruddy coffee that was normalized for you since a young age, probably with loads of sugar and or milk/cream to boot.

        Just the normal cycle for most people tbh.

        The comfort of the known combined with an underdeveloped palette is what makes it attractive to a lot of people

        It often changes and evolves with time as you grow older, kind of like when you try foods that you hated as a kid only to discover they’re really good.

        Granted that only happens if you explore and experiment, otherwise you never really grow out of it

        • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
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          8 hours ago

          Pretty snooty outlook on coffee, especially considering that café au lait, cappuccino etc. exist.

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            6 hours ago

            Coffee snobs are the most hilarious variety of snob.

            It’s the sincerity of the nonsense that really sets them apart.

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            7 hours ago

            Obviously, everyone is entitled to enjoy the drinks they like, but at least in Canada where I am from, Tim Horton’s reigns supreme, and before I started drinking my coffee black I drank their coffee all the time, but as soon as I took all the sugar and cream out of it I realized it was frankly pretty terrible.

            I think that’s what Whitebrow is referring to (not even Tim’s specifically, just lower tier coffees from such chains) I also see Folgers, and Maxwell House get consumed a lot here, and I find those particular brands to be fairly low quality as well.

            A Cappuccino made correctly with espresso is quite delicious, but that’s a very different beverage from brewed coffee with a lot of cream and sugar.

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              7 hours ago

              A well-made americano tastes great without cream and sugar, too. When Tim Horton makes a bad americano that doesn’t mean that americano is a bad drink, it means that Tim Horton makes a bad product.

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                6 hours ago

                Timmies coffee used to be better back in the day, but then they changed suppliers and since then it just tastes like somebody forgot it in the oven for a few hours too many.

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            6 hours ago

            I think you missed the point.

            If you never tried cafe au lait, cappuccino and others, you’d never know if you liked them or not and wouldn’t seek them out or bother to experiment with the other drinks.

            Has nothing to do with being snooty, and has everything to do with sticking to the things you know and tried as opposed to going out of your way to try and discover new things.

            Point is some people never go out and explore new flavours at the risk of not liking something.

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      19 hours ago

      Seems to be right. Not that the making fun of was accurate, but if you have a bunch of toxic men who think espresso puts hair on your chest, seeing folks drink drip coffee is probably embarrassing even though it’s objectively got more caffeine and a completely distinct flavor.

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          6 hours ago

          Reread what I said

          If it helps, assume I know what I’m talking about. That should steer you straight.

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        7 hours ago

        I don’t know if it was so much “Make fun of” as the sentiment was “They can’t handle it” similar to how certain cultures eat relatively spicy food tease those who can’t handle it. I don’t have direct evidence for that part, and my source was a friend of mine who was a foreign exchange student from France who explained it to me as such.

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          6 hours ago

          Right that’s the toxic masculinity/hair on your chest aspect. Espresso is in general easier on your stomach than drip and it’s certainly easier to drink (worst case it’s a shot). So even though the driver was toxic masculinity, as per usual that toxicity wasn’t even valid.

          Ironically in the middle of being toxic the Europeans invented something called an Americano that Americans don’t drink, doesnt have the rich flavors of what it’s making fun of, has less caffeine than what it’s making fun of, and is actually harder to drink (because of the shit flavor) than the thing it waters down. It’s a massive dumb backfire driven by toxic masculinity from the romance states.