Equating fascism to Communism originates from Nazi apologia called Double Genocide Theory. The Nazis invented industrialized mass murder, whereas the Communists made dramatic strides for the Working Class, including a mass democratization of the economy, lower wealth disparity, a robust and free healthcare and education system, and more.
Essentially, you’re trying to replace actual historical analysis and statistics with emotional scaremongering based on an anecdote from your Nazi-sympathizing grandmother.
Moreover, the DDR actually had it worse, it was made to pay reparations for World War II while lacking a real industrial base, which was mostly in Western Germany. The Soviet Union was devastated by the Nazi’s genocidal assault on the Slavic people’s they deemed inferior, and therefore couldn’t afford to rapidly rebuild the DDR or financially support them as much as they would have wanted.
I recommend you take some time to read historical accounts and genuine criticisms of the Socialist system, without just vaguely gesturing at it.
I didnt equate fasicm with communism. I equated the behavior of common people living in authocratic, injustice countries. If it helps you, I can use stories I heard from Syrians. As far as I know, Assad was just arsehole, without any special politcal agenda. But I dont know much about Syria. And in the end, it will be the same I assume.
Your actual historical analysis is more like a … “Dissent opinion” … I dont know where you get your “facts” from but really, try to get better sources. Or learn to interpret your sources better.
Fore example: You try to lecture me about the GDR, without knowing whats really about.
And by your conclusions about the economics: You want to justify despotism and torture with economical troubles? Really? I thought you were a communist, not a fascist.
And at last: My Grandmother wasnt sympathzing with the nazis, she was more like anti-fascist. You really have no clue about societies in authocratics regimes. You need to need learn a lot more. Probably try to travel to a country which overcame it just a little while ago. Talk to the people, inform yourself there. Youll get it then.
Syria is far worse under the current regime than it was under Assad, as you say, you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. Pretty self-aware of you to say.
As for facts and data, no, I get mine from mainstream sources and data from after the opening of the Soviet Archives. Just because I don’t bother with PragerU doesn’t mean I’m wrong, you haven’t actually been able to address anything I’ve said on a factual basis so you resort to dodging and dismissing.
You do that again with the DDR, you just say I don’t know anything rather than actually addressing what I say. What’s the point? Who are you convincing? Nobody, at this point, you have nothing to actually contest what I say and you aren’t convincing me.
As for torture and despotism, I don’t approve, that’s why I’m against the US Empire and its puppet regimes.
Thanks for the advice, but I already do, minus the travel. I’d like to some day. I suggest you do the same, and read books like Shock Doctrine and The Jakarta Method, which detail how 7 million people died during the transition from Socialism to Capitalism, and read about how the majority of people living in post-Soviet states wish they were still Socialist.
Far worse? Are you sure? Under his regime, there were Chem-Weapons dropped on his people … On top of all the killing, torture and systemic Violence …
The new islamistic leaders are only for like 2? 3? Month in Power? Bold to call them far worse. But obviously you are an expert for Syrian politics. So I dont want to lecture you.
What actual data do you want? History Books? Witness-Records? Museums?
For the crimes in the SU probably start with the work of th NGO “Memorial”. They tried to archive the systemic terror.
For an more imersive way to get into the topic “Gulag” and if yo German or French, there is a german-french documentary. It was produced with help from Memorial and several historians, which explains and shows soviet the Gulag-System in 3 Parts. From the early beginning after the revolution to the end of the SU.
“Die sowjetische Hauptverwaltung der Lager”, published by the German-French TV-Channel Arte. Probably you can find a translated version somewhere.
Im not a capitalist. You dont have to convince me that capitalism is a problem or that western imperialism did and ist still doing a lot of harm to the world.
But that doesnt mean Im Ok with the imperialism and harmfullnes of other politcal systems.
Yes, the death counts from the HTS regime are staggering, having ISIS control Syria ended up being even worse. Go figure.
I’d like verified historical texts and records. Museums and personal anecdotes can be twisted far easier.
Don’t speak German, so there’s nothing I can really check, though I don’t have much confidence in the anticommunist organizations of a country that was never de-nazified.
The Soviets weren’t Imperialist, the fact that you continue to confidently spout utter nonsense like thinking ISIS is somehow better than the Assad regime just because the West likes working with them more and your insistence that I ignore the mountains of evidence and first-hand accounts that go against what you and the other user believe means I can generally ignore your statements.
Equating fascism to Communism originates from Nazi apologia called Double Genocide Theory. The Nazis invented industrialized mass murder, whereas the Communists made dramatic strides for the Working Class, including a mass democratization of the economy, lower wealth disparity, a robust and free healthcare and education system, and more.
Essentially, you’re trying to replace actual historical analysis and statistics with emotional scaremongering based on an anecdote from your Nazi-sympathizing grandmother.
Moreover, the DDR actually had it worse, it was made to pay reparations for World War II while lacking a real industrial base, which was mostly in Western Germany. The Soviet Union was devastated by the Nazi’s genocidal assault on the Slavic people’s they deemed inferior, and therefore couldn’t afford to rapidly rebuild the DDR or financially support them as much as they would have wanted.
I recommend you take some time to read historical accounts and genuine criticisms of the Socialist system, without just vaguely gesturing at it.
I didnt equate fasicm with communism. I equated the behavior of common people living in authocratic, injustice countries. If it helps you, I can use stories I heard from Syrians. As far as I know, Assad was just arsehole, without any special politcal agenda. But I dont know much about Syria. And in the end, it will be the same I assume.
Your actual historical analysis is more like a … “Dissent opinion” … I dont know where you get your “facts” from but really, try to get better sources. Or learn to interpret your sources better.
Fore example: You try to lecture me about the GDR, without knowing whats really about.
And by your conclusions about the economics: You want to justify despotism and torture with economical troubles? Really? I thought you were a communist, not a fascist.
And at last: My Grandmother wasnt sympathzing with the nazis, she was more like anti-fascist. You really have no clue about societies in authocratics regimes. You need to need learn a lot more. Probably try to travel to a country which overcame it just a little while ago. Talk to the people, inform yourself there. Youll get it then.
Syria is far worse under the current regime than it was under Assad, as you say, you don’t actually know what you’re talking about. Pretty self-aware of you to say.
As for facts and data, no, I get mine from mainstream sources and data from after the opening of the Soviet Archives. Just because I don’t bother with PragerU doesn’t mean I’m wrong, you haven’t actually been able to address anything I’ve said on a factual basis so you resort to dodging and dismissing.
You do that again with the DDR, you just say I don’t know anything rather than actually addressing what I say. What’s the point? Who are you convincing? Nobody, at this point, you have nothing to actually contest what I say and you aren’t convincing me.
As for torture and despotism, I don’t approve, that’s why I’m against the US Empire and its puppet regimes.
Thanks for the advice, but I already do, minus the travel. I’d like to some day. I suggest you do the same, and read books like Shock Doctrine and The Jakarta Method, which detail how 7 million people died during the transition from Socialism to Capitalism, and read about how the majority of people living in post-Soviet states wish they were still Socialist.
Far worse? Are you sure? Under his regime, there were Chem-Weapons dropped on his people … On top of all the killing, torture and systemic Violence … The new islamistic leaders are only for like 2? 3? Month in Power? Bold to call them far worse. But obviously you are an expert for Syrian politics. So I dont want to lecture you.
What actual data do you want? History Books? Witness-Records? Museums?
For the crimes in the SU probably start with the work of th NGO “Memorial”. They tried to archive the systemic terror.
For an more imersive way to get into the topic “Gulag” and if yo German or French, there is a german-french documentary. It was produced with help from Memorial and several historians, which explains and shows soviet the Gulag-System in 3 Parts. From the early beginning after the revolution to the end of the SU. “Die sowjetische Hauptverwaltung der Lager”, published by the German-French TV-Channel Arte. Probably you can find a translated version somewhere.
Im not a capitalist. You dont have to convince me that capitalism is a problem or that western imperialism did and ist still doing a lot of harm to the world. But that doesnt mean Im Ok with the imperialism and harmfullnes of other politcal systems.
Yes, the death counts from the HTS regime are staggering, having ISIS control Syria ended up being even worse. Go figure.
I’d like verified historical texts and records. Museums and personal anecdotes can be twisted far easier.
Don’t speak German, so there’s nothing I can really check, though I don’t have much confidence in the anticommunist organizations of a country that was never de-nazified.
For you, I recommend the book Russian Justice.
The Soviets weren’t Imperialist, the fact that you continue to confidently spout utter nonsense like thinking ISIS is somehow better than the Assad regime just because the West likes working with them more and your insistence that I ignore the mountains of evidence and first-hand accounts that go against what you and the other user believe means I can generally ignore your statements.