cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26476469

The corporate media says Putin wants to take over the world, and Trump says Zelenskyy somehow managed to trick the US into supporting him — but the reality is that NATO’s long-term strategy of expansion towards Russia’s borders made war inevitable.

The only REAL path towards peace is the abolition of NATO!

  • The Spectre@lemmy.mlOP
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    17 hours ago

    Do you have anything on their argument that they keep hammering down on how allegedly post soviets countries took over a decade to join?

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      18 hours ago

      I don’t think it’s particularly relevant, Capitalism wasn’t a nuke that obliterated 7 million people instantly, it did so rapidly but unfolded and people reacted over time. History isn’t an instant series of chain reactions, but contradictions working themselves out.

      That said, no offense, but I wouldn’t engage people unless you’re confident in being able to pull off the argument.

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        17 hours ago

        Yeah, I am not as knowledgeable on the Russian-Ukrainian relations as I should. I just posted the PSL post on Reddit and got bombarded with rebuttals which I don’t know how to address a lot of them

        Edit: Your argument was sound so I used it, but I didn’t know how to address the rest of the points so decided to ask you since I was using your argument.

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          17 hours ago

          Assuming you’re a PSL cadre (or pro-PSL), I would personally recommend familiarizing yourself with some of the “spicier” topics before posting. I am sure there are PSL cadre who you can ask for guidance and resources before attempting agitprop.

          Also, since you now are more familiar with what gets pushback, analyze what gets pushback, and what the weakest links are, and agitate those. For example, I think explaining why NATO is Imperialist is easier than trying to explain that NATO provoked Russia, the first conclusion however makes the second easier to grasp. Further, you can explain how Imperialist countries function, and then explain NATO’s role in solidifying that, and connect it to the modern conflict.

          Just my 2 cents