It is astounding to me how far Americans can go down the fascist rabbit hole while still making it about the Dems. They will be marched to the camps whining all the way about why the Dems are letting it happen.
People focus on the Democrats instead of the Republicans because they still have hope the Democrats will actually do the right thing.
The Republicans have crossed the moral event horizon. They are irredeemably evil, complete monsters. Trying to influence them to change for the better is pointless, so that’s why people don’t bother to do it.
You didn’t state this explicitly, but it’s a fact that the U.S.’ political system only supports two parties. It’s easy to think U.S. voters can simply choose something else, especially for folks in countries with functional democracies, but in the U.S. voters are hostages. To a system that’s been honed for over two centuries to only support the hegemony of the ‘big 2.’
They get two viable options with this system. No more, and sometimes less.
Not voting is a thing that a plurality of citizens do, but those people aren’t working with the system. And beyond that, it’s revolution, which is also not working with the system. And I hate to say it but things aren’t quite bad enough for enough people for that to happen. Besides the incredible crackdown on people who wield their right to protest (felony trial charges?!?), the control over media and the internet keeps movements fractured and siloed. A felony conviction will more or less ensure your only job prospects for the rest of your life are unskilled jobs like manual labor and politician.
You aren’t trying to influence anybody. You are in the middle of a slow moving coup with next to zero institutional leverage because you botched the elections¡ so bad.
It’s not on the Dems anymore, the US electorate made very sure that was the case. Anybody unsatisfied with the milquetoast liberal’s resistance manual should be out on the streets flipping cars and enforcing a general strike, not whining online about how powerless dems are powerless. After the millionth time democrats don’t call for those emergency actions it stops being their fault that the rest of the country is sitting and waiting for them to organize street-level opposition.
Ugh. Crap. This is what happens when you engage with American politics. I’m out for the sake of my general mental health. You guys figure it out. Wake me up when you’ve approved a new Constitution or the tanks are landing in Greenland.
It is “you” as in Americans, and I mean every one of you individually.
I have no need to differentiate. Americans are as hostile to me right now as Russians, I don’t acknowledge any more individuality within one of those groups than the other.
So yeah, once Americans stop being hostile or get so hostile we need to actually fight them it’s all the same to me. I’ll let politicians and spies care about how much opposition to the regime there is and how it can be leveraged in the ongoing cold war. I have no need to engage any further than that.
Well, if they move here they are, I suppose, and then it’s whatever. Just like Russian political refugees seeking asylum I have no problem managing that securely. They have all my empathy. That’s more deference than America will give anybody else.
As citizens of a hostile country participating in its hostility, it is what it is.
It is astounding to me how far Americans can go down the fascist rabbit hole while still making it about the Dems. They will be marched to the camps whining all the way about why the Dems are letting it happen.
The DNC monopolised opposing the GOP so it kind of falls on them.
I guess if that’s how democracy reads in the US it explains a lot to how smoothly this whole process is going for the fascists. Good luck with that.
People focus on the Democrats instead of the Republicans because they still have hope the Democrats will actually do the right thing.
The Republicans have crossed the moral event horizon. They are irredeemably evil, complete monsters. Trying to influence them to change for the better is pointless, so that’s why people don’t bother to do it.
You didn’t state this explicitly, but it’s a fact that the U.S.’ political system only supports two parties. It’s easy to think U.S. voters can simply choose something else, especially for folks in countries with functional democracies, but in the U.S. voters are hostages. To a system that’s been honed for over two centuries to only support the hegemony of the ‘big 2.’
They get two viable options with this system. No more, and sometimes less.
Not voting is a thing that a plurality of citizens do, but those people aren’t working with the system. And beyond that, it’s revolution, which is also not working with the system. And I hate to say it but things aren’t quite bad enough for enough people for that to happen. Besides the incredible crackdown on people who wield their right to protest (felony trial charges?!?), the control over media and the internet keeps movements fractured and siloed. A felony conviction will more or less ensure your only job prospects for the rest of your life are unskilled jobs like manual labor and politician.
Well, too late.
You aren’t trying to influence anybody. You are in the middle of a slow moving coup with next to zero institutional leverage because you botched the elections¡ so bad.
It’s not on the Dems anymore, the US electorate made very sure that was the case. Anybody unsatisfied with the milquetoast liberal’s resistance manual should be out on the streets flipping cars and enforcing a general strike, not whining online about how powerless dems are powerless. After the millionth time democrats don’t call for those emergency actions it stops being their fault that the rest of the country is sitting and waiting for them to organize street-level opposition.
Ugh. Crap. This is what happens when you engage with American politics. I’m out for the sake of my general mental health. You guys figure it out. Wake me up when you’ve approved a new Constitution or the tanks are landing in Greenland.
Just to be clear, I did not botch a damn thing; I voted for Harris.
Everything else you said, assuming you mean “you” as in Americans generally rather than attacking me personally, I agree with.
It is “you” as in Americans, and I mean every one of you individually.
I have no need to differentiate. Americans are as hostile to me right now as Russians, I don’t acknowledge any more individuality within one of those groups than the other.
So yeah, once Americans stop being hostile or get so hostile we need to actually fight them it’s all the same to me. I’ll let politicians and spies care about how much opposition to the regime there is and how it can be leveraged in the ongoing cold war. I have no need to engage any further than that.
Damn thats how 4547 talks about minorities maybe you two would get along.
Americans aren’t a “minority”.
Well, if they move here they are, I suppose, and then it’s whatever. Just like Russian political refugees seeking asylum I have no problem managing that securely. They have all my empathy. That’s more deference than America will give anybody else.
As citizens of a hostile country participating in its hostility, it is what it is.