• Donkter@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    While the full list of demands is still being added to, discussed, edited and submitted to a legal expert, some of our basic demands are as follows:

    Protection and permanent guarantee of civil rights for all

    Total government reform

    Publicly funded health care

    Adequate and accessible disability support and services

    A permanent solution to Homelessness, hunger and the housing crisis

    Respect and support for tribal Sovereignty and involvement with indigenous leadership for environmental action

    Enhanced enforcement of constitutional rights

    More power to american voters

    I hope they get their full demands sorted out. A protest without immediate actionable legal demands is pretty doomed from the start. Especially one that encourages it’s protestors to give something up. Unless we can have a moment where we can see a politician sign something into law the end of the protest will be vague and mired in “negotiations” until people have had enough and decide they need to start making money again without anything of consequence being accomplished.

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      Protection and permanent guarantee of civil rights for all

      What’s your proposal to make things permanent? What rules can you establish that opponents won’t just undo later?

      Total government reform

      Holy vague statements and unrealistic expectations batman.

      Publicly funded health care

      Honestly, this one works.

      Adequate and accessible disability support and services

      Define adequate. Define accessible. Hell, define disability, cause even that can get squishy.

      A permanent solution to Homelessness, hunger and the housing crisis

      Just three social holy grails, nbd.

      Respect and support for tribal Sovereignty and involvement with indigenous leadership for environmental action

      What does that look like? Is support “give them money” or “treat them as a separate nation”? Which environmental actions?

      Enhanced enforcement of constitutional rights

      By what mechanism?

      More power to american voters

      What does that mean?

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      So, they want a new country?

      I’m all for each of these things, but trying to have them happen all at once is ignorant. Do they think that making all these changes will make people glad? People hate change, and that’s one of the main reasons Trump was elected.

      This strike feels like the 2016 election all over again, where left/liberals try to push for too much change and the population recoils into voting for regressive bigots.

    • fishos@lemmy.world
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      8 hours ago

      I’m sorry, but that list is everything. Great, but literally everything. Not just protections for X and Y and Z, but literally “total government reform” as well. If your list of demands is so vague you’ll never send a clear message and will struggle to gain support. I’m reminded of the Newsroom episode about Occupy Wall Street. You need clear leadership and direction. Something more concise like “civilian oversight commities in all branches with authority to order investigations and court trials” would be a huge move in the right direction. You need a clear addressing of the problem with realistic end goals and a way to get there - not a laundry list of hopes.