• BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    That’s not what liberal means.

    There is no such thing as an anti-capitalist liberal. Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. Liberals created the capitalist world order. That’s not life long programming, thats several hundred years of political theory and basic definitions.

    If you want to pretend that liberal means something else great, just don’t claim that everyone else in the world using the word correctly is wrong.

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      I mean I think Richard Rorty makes a compelling case that anti-capitalism actually carries the purported goals of liberalism further than so called “liberal” economics and so he was happy to identify self-consistently as an anti-capitalist liberal.

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        The French liberals that carried out the Revolution would be rolling their eyes at you. The English and French political theorists that invented liberalism would be rolling their eyes at you

        If liberals are staunch anti-capitalists, then name one

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          The french revolutionaries literally liberated themselves of the. same. things. we need again.

          But you’re messing with me. I now recognize the account from the other trickses you naughty ;)

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            The french revolutionaries literally liberated themselves of the. same. things. we need again

            You think liberal just means belief in liberation? Okay, nice that you have your own special definition that no other leftist uses.

            But you’re messing with me.

            No I’m being honest. Just like every other time I’ve replied to you

            trickses

            Where’s the trick? You’re the one claiming every other leftist is brainwashed because we don’t use your personal definition of liberal. We use the one based in theory and history

            And if you want to prove us wrong. Name one anti-capitalist liberal

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              Come on now. “You’re claiming” you say on things once again come from your head. You’re not even trying after all the friendly banter we tried.

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                Come on now.

                smuglord

                “You’re claiming” you say on things once again come from your head.

                smuglord now with more plausibly deniable ableism!

                You’re not even trying after all the friendly banter we tried.

                smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord smuglord

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                  Are you implying that a rhetorical mistake of someone assuming own thoughts as others’ is somehow a disability?

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                    Are you implying

                    There is nothing to imply. I directly told you that you’re obnoxiously smug and are fundamentally wrong on the very first claim you made on this thread and that going for the “dae le you are delusional” concern trolling angle is weak-ass ablelist shit.

                    Actual libs get a pass, they’re anticapitalists like us.

                    This is a clown take. You are a clown. Start juggling at least. 🤡

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            The french revolutionaries literally liberated themselves of the. same. things. we need again.

            The fuck you talking about that was a bourgeois revolution that overthrew feudalism. There’s a reason Les Mis is about a revolt that took place 40 years later.

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                Did you know

                Liberals communicate without sounding passively aggressively smug challenge. Difficulty level: "it’s almost as if smuglord "

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                    What does that have to do with the issue at hand?

                    That you’re a clown and you’re in dire need of better tricks. Can you juggle or ride a unicycle while you’re concern trolling and being smug, at least? 🤡

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                Very interesting!

                Doubling down on the smug-for-nothing Reddit shit is exhausting to read from you, and the “no u” is weak.

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                  You can take this as a “no u” if you want

                  It really is interesting that someone pushes these own ideas of rage and smugness towards someone else. Force enough and I’ll get annoyed and you’ll get a self-fulfilling prophecy? Plausible, but it’s still weird until those qualities are displayed

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                    You can take this as a “no u” if you want

                    It was, and it was hollow and empty because I made no such claim to be le cool, le calm, or le collected like you were making yourself out to be. Your clown act does bother me, as does your extraordinarily bullshit claim of “dae le liberals are against le capitalism.” If you’re not an ambitious wrecker, you’re extraordinarily ignorant.

                    really is interesting

                    Tripling down on the Redditisms is just an ambitious liberal clown act at this point. I don’t have to do anything but point at you eating your own shit.

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        I’m part Czech part British part French. You’d be wrong in all of those countries too.

        Can you also please tell me what the name of the party is that all the fascists created in Japan after ww2 and which still rules to this day?