I asked and enough of you answered that allowing to federate with threads.net even for the lolz would be considered too risky for y’all.

So I’ve gone ahead and added threads.net to our blocklist.

  • mikezila@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    While I don’t have love for meta/facebook/instagram/whatever corpo name they’re deciding to lead with this month, the fediverse blocking off people who want to join it seems odd. Like, we want the fediverse to be a thing so that everything can talk to everything else and the content itself can be king without having to worry too much about where that content lives. So we have a standard (ActivityPub, among others) that we want people to use so it all Just Works™, and we have a large entity adopting it and we shit on them for it? Like I said I don’t have any love for threads or meta at all, but shouldn’t we be at least a little happy that the very concept of federation isn’t able to be ignored in this way? What’s the benefit of building all this that we want the world to use and then getting mad and booting people who choose to connect to it?

    I don’t have strong feelings about this one way or the other I just don’t see the danger or damage in letting federation happen and just letting users decide what they want to view and what they don’t.

    • NightOwl@lemmy.oneEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      the fediverse blocking off people who want to join it seems odd. Like, we want the fediverse to be a thing so that everything can talk to everything else and the content itself can be king without having to worry too much about where that content lives.

      Not me. I wanted something free from multibillion dollar corporations. And people aren’t blocked off. They don’t even need an account to view content or an app. And they aren’t blocked from creating a non meta affiliated account if they want to participate.

    • lemmyshmemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      019·
      1 year ago

      If we want content to be king we should block huge, malicious corporations that have made billions of dollars by manipulating content.

  • very smart Idiot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    02·
    1 year ago

    Man. As if Threads would even care. Due to their connection with instagram, they will automatically become the bigger content aggregator anyway. Why would threads even risk federation with platforms they do not control - and then they get sued if some moron on some instance posts questionable shit and some snowflake user on threads sees it. I’d bet Threads was never supposed to be federated. They just made use of a pre-existing software, just as truth social did. Why work hard, if the software is already there?

    Furthermore threads is not even competing with Lemmy and Reddit like alternatives. I do t get all this fuss about threads. Everyone is suddenly so anti corporate, even though big corporations had a big part in what the internet is today.

    In the future Defederation will just strengthen the position of bigger platforms. People will sooner or later be unhappy with the rather low amount of content and move to bigger platforms (that will eventually by controlled by corporations)

    Staying federated is the smarter decision, as users will stay on smaller instances, since they have a big pool of content from other instances, including corporate instances like threads or similar.

    • pizzahoe@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      If we wanted to be a part of Facebook we’d be there. And since we’re not there we don’t want Facebook to be here. This is why many instances don’t want to be associated with them. Also no, corporations didn’t have part in the making of internet. They had a part in profiteering of our data and the internet. Being anti-corporate is only a sensible decision one can make in today’s world.

    • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      You’re making the mistaken assumption that everyone wants lemmy to “win” social or something.

      I don’t want that at all. I want meta users to stay at meta. I don’t want lemmy posts to be manipulated by meta users.

      • Woodyboye@lemmy.mlEnglish
        0·
        1 year ago

        Lets try to not throw names around and keep civil please. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, even if we dont agree with them

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
      0·
      1 year ago

      Facebook already had a walled garden with Instagram. They didn’t need to use ActivityPub. If the weight of their usercount was enough to make everyone to switch to it, people would have switched to it. And yet,the fediverse is thriving outside of their influence for a reason. Facebook is not opening up their walled garden for no reason…

      • NightOwl@lemmy.oneEnglish
        0·
        1 year ago

        To put it simply Meta is way more problematic than Reddit, so makes zero sense to leave Reddit then go running off into the arms of Meta. So stand up job. Hilarious seeing Zuck’s astroturfers trying to poorly convince people it’s a bad idea to not hold hands with Meta.