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Jen Sorensen: Your New Order Has Arrived
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It’s like Americans lost their national identity or something. Billionaires and Russians/Chinese wanted to reach their goal to make people socially conservative and they did it, sadly.
Bojler eladó, nem lopott, vadi új(hungary mentioned) /s
Maybe you guys will know.
Is the following link lefty Q anon?
No.
Hope this helps!
What sets it apart?
If you don’t mind helping for another sec.
I’d really like to give this link out to people but watching it fills me with dread about how conspiritoral it is.
I hope these fuckers are happy now. They got what they wanted. Or just ignored the problem and now that it’s not going away they’ve finally realized that maybe they should have voted differently. Or at all.
I hope y’all bastards suffer.
If you think they’re rethinking their choices, or are even aware of any of the problems, you are a god damn child. They live in a bubble and think things are better than ever.
I’m not at all ready for it, but I’ve been acutely aware it was coming since the night of Nov. 6th.
I mean most of us were acutely aware of it since November of 2016 and perhaps even before, but yeah. So far the awareness seems to be more of a punishment because we can see the train wrecks coming but can’t seem to convince the drivers of the car we’re in to actually stop parking on the tracks.
Perhaps blissful ignorance may save our mental state.
I avoid news a lot more than I used to because all it does is cause distress about things I have no control over. In his first term I at least had the hope that the shaky guardrails were there to keep him from going too far, but those are gone now and I’m fully aware I live in a country under a fascist regime with no opposition from anyone with the power to do something about it.
Are you sure? I checked around and couldn’t find much about this. Cable and broadcast news don’t seem to be reporting it, and none of the major newspapers. It’s not supported by X or Facebook either. I don’t see a lot of books about it on my Kindle. I mean, that’s quite a conspiracy theory you’ve got going there. For it to work, a small group of people would have to somehow hold over half the wealth of America and use it to elect politicians with so few scruples that they’ll appoint anyone to powerful offices. Even that is assuming they could somehow pack courts with compliant judges who are willing to declare that corporations are people and money is speech. Next, you’ll be telling me that a median salary is unlikely without a degree that costs almost as much as a new car, but that it doesn’t matter anyway because a median salary can’t support a family in the same standard of living they were born into. I can’t imagine people would tolerate this kind of thing. We’d have to be living in some kind of dystopian, authoritarian plutocracy like a bad 1970s sci-fi.
Hahahaha… ha…
sob
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
Here is a link but no one I’ve asked so far seems to have a good handle on how much of this is hyperbole. The whole presentation screams q anon.
USians are so racist you have to explain bad things using the words “Russian” and “Iranian” next to them. Like, you have Fox news already for half a century don’t you? What do you mean “Russian style disinformation”? You guys invented it before the Russian Federation existed lmao
At the end of the day, they’re still pathetic amerikkkan exceptionalists who think “we are better than this.”
We are not better than this, and we never have been.
Fucking pieces of shit got us where we are with their ignorance.
Fox News was founded in 1996 which we all know was only about 10 years ago.
Almost 30 years, damn
These people have presidents swear on the bible and talk about theocracies smh
The US has only had 1 president who wasn’t Christian and that was Thomas Jefferson who thought the Bible had been adopted by to many political ideologies that tainted the better moral frameworks.
Every president after has been directly and only Christian. No Jewish, no Buddhists, no separation of church and state ever allowed.
That’s nationalism and jingoism, not racism.
Jeez.
Well, probably all of the above with the Iranian thing.
I thought characters in webcomics were more politically aware, but I guess they are just 2 dimensional.
Yeah, I feel like it kinda fell flat.
I can’t wait for Trump to rename the months after his family members.
I vote for “Ivanktober” because that’s the creepiest of their familial relationships I can think of off hand. It’ll really augment the spooky vibe of the season.
Spooky season has been canceled due to being witchcraft and satan worship. You will instead be assigned a pew at your local evangelical church for reeducation.
What priests do to kids is way scarier than Halloween anyway.
Don’t you know? Those priests were seduced by those children! It’s the devil in them, making goodly and god-fearing men do these unthinkable acts! Really, we should be punishing the kids.
/sarcasm, for the people in the audience who will inevitably be too dense to get it
Voting for what makes you mad, living for what makes you sad.
Are these song lyrics? If not, they should be.
i’M tOo LaZy To bE bOtHeReD WiTh BaSiC CiVic DuTy, So i BeLiEvE aNyOnE oNLinE wHo TeLLs Me ThAt bOTh ParTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe? LoL_!!!_ 🤣🤣🤣
i’M sO pUrE!!! 😇🤪🤩Millions of self-destructively lazy, stupid mediocre people shouted in unison (again):
Vote for a woman? When PIGS fly!!!Or if Biden had remained in the race:
sLeePy JoE! LoL!Stupidity and ignorance are way too widespread. It should not take a genius to figure out that trump and the GOP are pretty much against the working class. I’m not saying democrats are saints, but at least Biden tried to cancel student loan debt, and somehow that got looked at negatively??!?
I mean you can exist in this world if you want to. It is more fun than the truth which is sad and boring.
Most people really do care and have good intentions, but are too overworked and too uneducated to pull apart the propaganda that’s being pushed to them 24/7.
The oligarchs didn’t win when Trump got elected the second time. The won when they got control over the media. That was a while back.
Yeah, and 70 million people voted for a fascist.
But it’s okay because he is their fascist.
It’s really important to promote leopards so they don’t eat your face when they get hungry.
Not just a woman, a black woman.
She’s black now? I thought she was Indian. /s
This comic depicts four people who couldn’t be bothered to pay attention to anything for ten years.
I have no sympathy.
So the vast majority?
That is correct.
That doesn’t help the cause though, in fact this exact attitude might be a pretty big part of why we’re all in deep shit now.
Correct! One of the most important tools we need to obtain, the most important weapon we need to arm yourself, isn’t obvious, or simple, or easy.
It’s Messaging.
Want to spend your time bitter? Apathetic? “I-told-you-so”?
I don’t blame you.
But you’re not actually working towards a solution. If all you have to say is “I told you so,” or “what’s the point?” or “everything’s fucked” - I get it. But you’re not contributing to the conversation any more than the people in this comic have been for the last how many years. You’re not helping any more than they were.
We need messaging. We need to be willing to fight these battles. Not fighting the embittered trolls, but spreading truth. Sharing solutions. Making plans. Fighting this. Apathy. Pointlessness. Accelerationism.
Spread free platforms. Spread free ideas. Have meaningful conversations with your friends and families and coworkers. Try again, and keep trying. In little steps, in great acts. Don’t let the shock paralyze you, the size overwhelm you. Don’t get washed away by the flood of hate. This is the second best time to act. Your opportunities are growing by the minute.
Life is about to get very, very hard for many people. Many of the obvious targets will suffer, but it’s pretty clear that nobody is “safe”. Even the poster boys are under threat of retribution for stepping out of line. And everyone, everyone is facing the inevitable economic downturn that is speeding toward us.
But hardship shakes beliefs. It changes minds. Things will become personal for even the most detached, apathetic, or privileged. And when politics become personal all bets are off.
But don’t bother if you’re not going to try. Really, really try. Think about yourself, and the world, and the person you’re talking to, and really try to make them see.
Take - and make - your opportunities to change minds. Don’t be afraid, but be careful. Don’t be polite for the sake of politeness, but be kind, be considerate, even be gentle when you think it will help, but don’t be polite.
Whatever they can say to you can’t compare to what is being done to you or about to be done to everybody. Whatever they say can’t be worse than their complacency.
Your one and only goal: stay on message. This is bad and it needs to stop. Here is how it affects you. Here is how it affects your family. Here is how things are going wrong, and why.
More than anything else, we need each other. We need solidarity, community. We need to genuinely start asking ourselves: how do we win? And then make the answer happen.
We kneel beneath the weight of wealth and tradition and fear. But despite the growth of AI, at the end of the day the people we kneel beneath are people. Humans decide what happens next. They are human. We are all human. We can decide what happens next.
The only people we need to be messaging are the DNC. Policy that improves people’s material condition is louder than any of us can hope to be. Same goes for genocide.
There is nothing you can say to someone who sees people just like them getting massacred by American bombs that will make them vote for you. I spent over a year screaming this, but I was drown out by people saying “no, actually because the republicans will do it worse, all the anti-genocide voters are still gonna vote so the democrats don’t need to change course”. And now those same people are saying the voters learned their lesson and will vote blue no matter who next time or that democrats issue is messaging.
I like you. Keep spreading the message.
Well said, my friend.
Take - and make - your opportunities to change minds. Don’t be afraid, but be careful. Don’t be polite for the sake of politeness, but be kind, be considerate, even be gentle when you think it will help, but don’t be polite.
Not to put too fine a point on it: No.
The horses have been led to the water many times. They are welcome to drink whenever they choose. The time for talking is over.
Then you’re not actually advocating for change. If you have no interest in changing minds then you have no interest in any meaningful difference in the future. Besides, the consent has been manufactured and the horses have been lead to a poisoned pool.
The apathetic dismissal of people as helpless - the belief that they are, individually and as a whole, incapable of change or redemption or worse, unworthy of it - is a small but meaningful part of the machine that has altered reality in front of our very eyes.
We appear to be in one of many pivotal moments in history, where economics and politics and technology all tip the dominoes that are human lives toward an entirely new and irreversible state.
Hard times tend to meet demagogues and easy answers, but they also tend to force people to come together and face hard truths. I’m not saying you personally can save or change them all - perhaps not even save any. But there are plenty of good, ignorant people that will have opportunities to learn some terrible lessons very soon.
ten65 yearsWhat option were they given?
Voting. They were given the option to vote, but chose to be the type that “don’t care much about politics”
Why would they bother? Who actually represents them? Both major parties are corporate captured.
One of them isnt trying install a theocracy.
No, they just stepped aside and profited from donations while it happened
Sure buddy, Dems might be nearly uselesss because of that, but they weren’t actively trying to overthrow the goverment or kill democracy
No, they just stepped aside and profited from donations while it happened
Did you ever canvass for any alternative candidate or do you expect them to just rise out of the ether?
So replace the term “both parties” with “the only party” by categorically discarding all faith and worship in all political parties that have done absolutely nothing for anyone of the working class.
Then make a new party that’s even better.
That’s what the Greens and PSL elected to do. They’re the best way out that doesn’t involve bloodshed.
What, the anti-nuclear “green party” with the vaccine hesitant Jill Stein? Pass. We need a scientifically aligned, pro-labor party not a career spoiler candidate.
Yeah, because things are going great as they are, right?
And I’m sure their policies would introduce runoff voting for future elections; but as it stands, most voters are currently voting out of fear of “the other big party” - for which voting Green poses an extreme risk.
but as it stands, most voters are currently voting out of fear of “the other big party”
Which is a confidence game. The big parties only matter because people have been convinced that they matter. Once this illusion is broken, real progress can begin, but until it is broken the US will simply continue its vicious cycle into oblivion.
Besides, what chance to Dems have of winning at this rate anyway? What chance did they have leading up to this past election as they covered up Biden’s dementia, enabled a genocide, and imposed a candidate of their choosing after denying the people actual democracy? Are they redeemable?
To pay attention or to not pay attention…
Pay all the attention you want, it’s not like anyone was ever actually given the option out of this mess through the system.
I’m out of this mess through the system. They didn’t do shit to stop me getting on a plane and flying across the ocean last Monday to a more civilized part of the world. It has its own problems, but at least people don’t get into things like massive healthcare debt.
Yeah that’s taking advantage of a privilege that practically zero other people have to flee to a safer distance from the problem. That isn’t helping clean up the mess and doesn’t entirely fully remove you from it.
It allows you to claim you aren’t involved because you stay uninvolved but it’s not the same as being helpful or even being offerable advice to anyone else other than a percentage so small it rounds down to zero.I am saving my queer daughter’s life.
I suppose you would rather me stick around and have her marched into a camp?
Do you have any kids? Would you sacrifice children for your cause?
I didn’t say that. I was pointing out the privilege of your statement when you offer that as a solution to this issue.
You can use the idea that anyone pointing it out is some villain who would have your family hurt but that’s not reality. It’s just an emotional response to protect your mindset. That’s fine. Don’t treat me poorly because of it though. You already got more privileges than the queer people left behind who may be in what you fantasize and have nightmares of.
It’s not a sacrifice if we can’t leave. It’s just reality. Something you have a privilege to alter to ignore.
“BoTH siDes aRe the SAme!”
Yes, yes they are. Actually the Republicans at least have the virtue of being honest about being evil. Dems are too craven to even admit that.
The status quo vs … gestures wildly ???
If the status quo was working, people would have gone with it
Well, this new alternative is working out wonderfully.
Doesn’t mean that people weren’t desperate for an alternative. People don’t have the knowledge you do and often don’t think through every possible outcome. If they know they are suffering and there is a chance for change they will leap towards it even if it’s out of the pot and into the fire. Humans crave change and the status quo has been used as a cludgel against them for decades.
You can be upset that this is the change that’s happening but don’t blame people that are suffering and try not to be smug about it when they suffer more or they will never view you as kind to their plight.
You guys always manage to make the worst out of a morally questionable concept. Did it already with slavery.
I like that format, too.
Question: Slavery?
Answer: No.
Ah, no, i thought more about that there were different types of slavery (african, british, etc.) that somewhat worked with society but US took of every type the worst parts and made it an inter-generational instead of a limited-time thing.
Turn it up Listen to the shit they pump into your head Filling you with apathy Hold your breath Wait until you know the time is right on time The end is near
I remember when I discovered the CD would change from white decal to black with 1’s and 0’s all over it from the heat of being played
dude that was peak CD art with an amazing album that has a vivid theme and the biggest fuck you idiots we are all doomed no matter what
Did you see the hand?
In the spectrograph?
My mind was blown when it did that the first time for me, it was so cool
More relevant than ever.
Unrelated, but just the other day I was thinking about an extremely offensive NIN t-shirt I had in the 90’s. I wish I still had that shirt.
Hungary didn’t crack down on education? Our scores are still competitiv-ishly high in Europe! Our teachers are unfortunately paid in animal crackers though, like most important jobs! The teacher, doctor, bus driver scarcity is just more apparent than some others
In our system Viktor Orban have bought the media with stolen public funds! And the opposition parties and much of our economy…
I think it’s talking about https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/03/dark-day-freedom-george-soros-affiliated-central-european-university-quits-hungary. (Random link from WIkipedia on Central European University.)
Premium or off-brand animal crackers?
We only really have one brand, its our own! Its the 3rd of our largest export! According to us the Serbs only stopped trying to reunite parts of Yugoslavia because we stopped exporting our animal crackers to them, so their country fell to ruins!
Haha! This was a most unexpected response. 😂
Now excuse me while I scour the interwebs for images of the majestic animal crackers. I think I have an idea of how we might change the course of world events with them.
