UK and Ukraine sign landmark 100 Year Partnership to deepen security ties and strengthen partnership for future generations
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The UK and Ukraine will sign a historic partnership, as the Prime Minister travels to the country to meet President Zelenskyy.
      • supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
        7·
        2 months ago

        Comrades aside, they deserve all of this.

        I was going to say, they created an economic system that feeds on misery, but that’s just capitalism including the highest stage of it, imperialism, and they were the lead innovators of it. So I didn’t think of anything new lol.

          • supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
            4·
            2 months ago

            Yeah, it’s one of those things that’s a genuine sentiment but when it came down to it, I would back down from it happening. It’s just that any time you see something shitty happening, the English have their hands in it. I.e. providing surveillance flights to Israel, more than the israelis themselves.

          • cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml
            4·
            2 months ago

            You have no reason to be sorry. And holy shit, you grew up in the USSR? I’d love to hear all about it. Even the little details, if you wish.

            I feel alot of your same frustrations. I’m Amerikkkan though, and have never experienced socialism first hand. I’m hoping to move to China.

    • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.mlMEnglish
      8·
      2 months ago

      Truly a blight on humanity. I say we vacate the area for a hundred years or so. Maybe whatever makes the island the abhorrence that it is will have dissipated by then.

      • supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml
        5·
        2 months ago

        Even now they are the dirty money capital of the world. Housing the wealth of the world’s oligarchs as their native populations are relegated to poverty and destitution. I am almost convinced no one there has ever earned an honest dollar, or should I say pound.

  • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    182·
    2 months ago

    Ukraine didn’t exist for most of these years.

    Edit: holy shit they meant for the incoming 100 years? This is even more hilarious.

    • Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
      5·
      2 months ago

      Ukraine didn’t exist for most of these years.

      What is that even supposed to mean? Plenty of nations have been oppressed and denied self determination, that doesn’t mean those nations didn’t exist. Basque doesn’t exist as a country, does it mean one can’t express solidarity with their struggle for the past 100 years?

      • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        I first thought it meant 100 year partnership as in 100 year relations between them until now, not for the future, hence I said that Ukraine as a country didn’t exist for most of that time, it was Soviet Union.

        • Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
          5·
          2 months ago

          Sorry for jumping the gun there comrade.

          Although Ukraine did exist within the USSR, it was officially called Ukrainian SSR but everyone called it Ukraine, same as Russia was officially Russian SFSR but you wouldn’t say Russia didn’t exist.

          • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            51·
            2 months ago

            I mean tecnically they were both part of one merged country and didn’t exist as countries, same as Czechia and Slovakia didn’t exist but Czechoslovakia did.

            But I meant Ukraine as in current and WW2 form, Nazikraine if you will.

            • Red_Scare [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
              5·
              1 month ago

              Czechia and Slovakia weren’t separate entities the way Soviet republics were.

              Bandera cult is horrific and Banderites get the wall, but calling the whole country Nazikraine is really shitty, especially considering all the death and destruction brought on Ukraine by Western meddling and coups and local compradors. Do better.

              [Very late edit]

              Calling WW2 Ukraine “Nazikraine” is completely ahistorical, you could just as well call WW2 Belarus “Nazirus” because under Nazi occupation, Nazi collaborators were in power. Ukraine is not like Hungary or Romania, it was never allied with Nazi Germany. It was invaded and occupied as part of the USSR.

              Ukraine was one of the primary victims of Nazism along with Belarus, over two million Ukrainians enslaved and sent to German industries for forced labour, over five million slaughtered, entire villages razed to the ground, mass rapes organised by Nazi officers, mass shootings by SS death squads and Banderites, things Western education mostly glosses over. Even the 30s famine has nothing on the destruction Nazis wreaked on Ukraine.

              I doubt you can imagine the generational trauma people raised in the USSR have. Look up Babi Yar, I grew up not far from there and still remember school trips there. Watch “Come and See” and understand we were raised by people who lived through this (https://youtu.be/zjIiApN6cfg). Liberation from Nazis is not a laughing matter for us, which is why the Ukrainian grandma with the red flag resonated so deeply with so many ex-Soviet people (https://youtu.be/DfeflkpcOi4).

              Ukraine was a founding member of the USSR, Ukrainians were the largest ethnic group in the Red Army after Russians, with 5.3 million serving (https://i.imgur.com/62j4OYo.jpeg) - 21 times more than around 250 thousand total serving for the German military under the Nazi occupation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany#Collaborating_organizations,_political_movements,_individuals_and_military_volunteers). Marshall Zhukov said, “We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it”. It was the Ukrainians who did the liberation, and now the West is destroying them in a proxy war against Russia, after putting Banderites in power.

              The role of the West is not accidental here. After WW2 the West immediately went on to put Nazi generals in charge of NATO. In Ukraine, despite the CIA support (operation Aerodynamic and others), remaining Bandrite gangs were eradicated by the early 50s, but Canada nurtured them in the following decades in hopes they can be transplanted back. All this simply because Nazism is an organic outgrowth of European settler-colonial project (same as Zionism), it’s the ugly side of Western liberalism.

              Again, Bandrites get the wall, but I won’t stand for equating Ukraine (or Russia) with Nazi Germany.

              • Kirbywithwhip1987@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                4·
                2 months ago

                Current Ukraine is definitely a fascist rump state considering not only militant nazis, but also all the monuments, museums, busts, streets etc of some of the worst people from Eastern Europe in history all over the country.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.mlOP
      5·
      2 months ago

      I think it’s entirely possible that the UK will have a huge economic crash and at that point Ireland and Scotland could exist the union as a result. All the economic indicators right now show that the UK is in really deep trouble, and it’s likely only gonna get worse going forward.

      • beleza pura
        2·
        1 month ago

        I can’t shake the feeling that the uk is gonna follow the same path as the ottoman empire and 100 years from now england will be like turkey today