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    I shamelessly stole this, but I agree with the opinion:

    There are those who believe Justin Roiland must be guilty of something anyway so it’s a “good move to distance themselves.” Those people have short memories regarding Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.

    The remaining allegations against Justin Roiland are just that, with no proof against Roiland. Screenshots only prove that a conversation took place not who was actually speaking.

    Make no mistake that if there’s an actual crime committed then he should go to jail. But the rule of law is that he’s presumed innocent until proven guilty. The argument that “It’s a private company, they can do what they want” ignores that fact.

    Justin Roiland has been unjustly treated in this, and many fans are voicing our opinions about it. The truth is that the show is moving forward despite our objections

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      This is a terrible take. He was an annoyance and liability for the show. He contributed minimally and these productions are better off without him.

      The “Innocent until proven guilty” part of the argument only makes sense of he was only fired for breaking the law.

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        While I do not disagree with your opinion, all charges were dropped. He may be a complete dipshit, but until something is proven you’re just witch hunting

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          There was more than just the stuff with his wife though. Dude likes 14 year old girls and had many inappropriate texts with underage girls. Go listen to the audio of when he was a guest on a podcast talking about how some 14 year old girls are “developed” and physically ready etc. He’s fucking gross and was a hindrance to the show.

          That said. The rest of the crew was happy to drop him, so I have no problem continuing to support the show.

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            I definitely support the show, but it is still a public declaration of guilt without evidence or trial. If there were inappropriate texts with minors the investigators would have surely done something. You’re calling the guy guilty instead of just calling him sleazy. There’s a big difference in losing your job for an accusation vs a guilty verdict.

            I do think moving forward without him was the right choice, but I do not believe publicizing the accusations against him and ruining him without a trial was right

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              We live in a society with both social and legal consequences for our actions.

              Presumption of innocence is for legal matters. Me calling him guilty is not a legal matter. It’s a social consequence of his actions.

              The gross texts are available to read. They are undisputed facts. He is guilty of sending them.

              There are no legal consequences for those texts. The social consequences include losing his job.

              Do you feel we should live in a society with only legal consequences and no social consequences?

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                Both of your points were already addressed in the OP.

                The gross texts are available to read. They are undisputed facts. He is guilty of sending them.

                There are screenshots with no one claiming ownership. Investigators saw far more than you or I did and decided there wasn’t enough evidence to push charges.

                Do you feel we should live in a society with only legal consequences and no social consequences?

                Coughs in Johnny Depp

                I guess my question to you is: why make the comment at all, when your concerns were already addressed? I’m here. I’ll talk to you. How was your day?