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    To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer’s head. There’s also Rick’s nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick’s existential catchphrase “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub,” which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev’s Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon’s genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools… how I pity them. 😂

    And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

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      Yes, but: a lot of other pretty unwholesome stuff came out about him during the process and his contract has a clause in it that allows him to be terminated on that basis; it’s actually pretty common for people in his kind of position to have contracts like that.

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      doesn’t matter, these"judges" already convicted him. Forget due process. Getting accused publicly == being guilty forever on social media.

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        It’s also important to remember that this is how most abuse cases work out. There is almost never enough evidence because it is almost impossible to proof beyond reasonable doubt. It’s incredibly rare that someone gets convicted in an abuse case, no matter if they actually committed abuse or not. The victim has to basically stand in court with the gunk and fingerprints of the perpetrator still on them and video material that shows it wasn’t self-defense from the other side, for any conviction to actually happen.

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            That’s what you take from it? No, I think there should be no reports or articles or mentions on any cases that have not yet been decided upon by a court. A private’s persons life is not ruined by an accusation because it almost never leads to a conviction, regardless of whether they are guilty or not.

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              Sorry, I thought you were saying in subtext that we should only judge based on accusations since evidence is hard to get for abuse cases. My bad!

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                No, I am really not that good in English. I often realise people understand it slightly different than what I meant. But I can’t do anything about it lol

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    I shamelessly stole this, but I agree with the opinion:

    There are those who believe Justin Roiland must be guilty of something anyway so it’s a “good move to distance themselves.” Those people have short memories regarding Johnny Depp and Amber Heard.

    The remaining allegations against Justin Roiland are just that, with no proof against Roiland. Screenshots only prove that a conversation took place not who was actually speaking.

    Make no mistake that if there’s an actual crime committed then he should go to jail. But the rule of law is that he’s presumed innocent until proven guilty. The argument that “It’s a private company, they can do what they want” ignores that fact.

    Justin Roiland has been unjustly treated in this, and many fans are voicing our opinions about it. The truth is that the show is moving forward despite our objections

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      This is a terrible take. He was an annoyance and liability for the show. He contributed minimally and these productions are better off without him.

      The “Innocent until proven guilty” part of the argument only makes sense of he was only fired for breaking the law.

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        While I do not disagree with your opinion, all charges were dropped. He may be a complete dipshit, but until something is proven you’re just witch hunting

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          There was more than just the stuff with his wife though. Dude likes 14 year old girls and had many inappropriate texts with underage girls. Go listen to the audio of when he was a guest on a podcast talking about how some 14 year old girls are “developed” and physically ready etc. He’s fucking gross and was a hindrance to the show.

          That said. The rest of the crew was happy to drop him, so I have no problem continuing to support the show.

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            I definitely support the show, but it is still a public declaration of guilt without evidence or trial. If there were inappropriate texts with minors the investigators would have surely done something. You’re calling the guy guilty instead of just calling him sleazy. There’s a big difference in losing your job for an accusation vs a guilty verdict.

            I do think moving forward without him was the right choice, but I do not believe publicizing the accusations against him and ruining him without a trial was right

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              We live in a society with both social and legal consequences for our actions.

              Presumption of innocence is for legal matters. Me calling him guilty is not a legal matter. It’s a social consequence of his actions.

              The gross texts are available to read. They are undisputed facts. He is guilty of sending them.

              There are no legal consequences for those texts. The social consequences include losing his job.

              Do you feel we should live in a society with only legal consequences and no social consequences?

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                Both of your points were already addressed in the OP.

                The gross texts are available to read. They are undisputed facts. He is guilty of sending them.

                There are screenshots with no one claiming ownership. Investigators saw far more than you or I did and decided there wasn’t enough evidence to push charges.

                Do you feel we should live in a society with only legal consequences and no social consequences?

                Coughs in Johnny Depp

                I guess my question to you is: why make the comment at all, when your concerns were already addressed? I’m here. I’ll talk to you. How was your day?

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    I can’t believe how much fucking merchandise there is for such a small show. Compare it to even something like futurama in terms of cultural impact and there’s so much more plastic shit made for Rick and Morty

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      I think part of that is how popular merchandising like funko pops have become in recent years, Futurama was many years ago at this point.

      Second reason is that despite its longevity in the internet consciousness, it’s easy to forget Futurama was fairly unpopular when it was originally airing.

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      Might just be me, but when Futurama was new, Funko just wasn’t the massive brand it is today. While there is Futurama Funko, Rick and Morty is still (sorta, not regularly), being made, but Futurama has been dormant for new episodes until very recently. So if the show takes off, I’d suspect a new line of Futurama Funkos for people.

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      Rick and morty is not a small show by almost any metric. Funko pops also became popular right around the same time and have a massive overlap in fans, so it makes sense. Futurama was not out at the same time for the most part but there is still about a dozen funko pops from it.

      Funko can just make tons of unique models really cheaply, and they know fans will buy them to collect like beanie babies, so of course they’ll keep churning out different versions of the same characters of one of the most popular nerd cartoons that their own fans love.

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        it’s a small show by literally any metric.

        The Circle posted about triple the viewership numbers. would you consider the circle a big show?

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          Ah yes, do compare a reality show to a fiction cartoon. I’m sure Top Chef has such a greater impact culturally than Breaking Bad

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      Rick and Morty was pretty damn huge for a minute there. Think you’re underestimating it’s impact.

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      Small show? I dunno about that. Rick and Morty are pretty iconic characters and there’s been lots of famous moments from that show since it started broadcasting. I dunno why you are making it sound like barely anyone watched it. I was a teenager during its peak in popularity and let me tell you everyone is the hallway was quoting one liners from that show.

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    I love how the way he wrote that makes it seem like he considers this dude hurting the fandom and killing some show to be a worse transgression than hurting his girlfriend.

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      hurting millios of smart adult fans (like me) every single day and second 😢😢 or a girl getting hurt two tims a day. Please think abut before comenting 😭😭😭