• Black AOC@lemmygrad.ml
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    No country has achieved full, what the layman would term communism; mostly because Amerika keeps interceding and fucking over millions of people at a time every time someone they were exploiting tries to take the first step of socialism, you absolute rifle. And real talk, how do you suggest dealing with potential reactionaries trying to tear your government down? 'Cause uh, I think if you intend for a hard-leftist political mission to go forward, you’re gonna need to remove some fuckin reactionaries. Or do you traffic in morally-pure, bloodless coups? Your forebears didn’t.

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      Yes, and let’s not pretend that western governments have never killed/silenced people for political reasons either. My grandmother could testify that there was a lot of sussy stuff was happening in US under the cover of WW2 and she personally knew people that were being underhandedly executed for spy accusations and whatnot.

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        The entirety of the Civil Rights Movement was is* the Amerikan government silencing subjects-of-empire petitioning for liberation, too

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          Still haven’t heard of any successful communist governments ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Unless you count China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela as successful.

          Want a list of all the governments that failed under communism? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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          Name a country better than the USA lol

          Capitalism is flawed but even at its worst it’s better than communism at its best. Prove me wrong 😂

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            USSR: focus on education, free healthcare, went from feudal shithole to a world power that fed it’s people, a lot of social spending, workers councils had a say in the economy, defeated Nazis

            USA: millions of homeless people, horrible drug problem, college debt, most wealth stolen from other nations through imperialism, ruled by fascist sympathizers and corporations, landleeches everywhere sucking life and noney of workers

            Name a country better than the USA Lol

            Thanks, US would be on the bottom of my list of good countries. It’s good if you want to be a rich leech, it sucks for an average Joe.

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              Yeah but where’s the USSR now?.. 😂

              What the heck? The USA has all those problems, sure but it’s way better than all 3rd world countries, top three in 1st world countries AND it’s the strongest nation in; military, average living standards, education, medicine, jobs, etc.

              I think someone lied to you about capitalism considering it’s the reason why our country is so great. But let me put it the best way I know how: at its worse, no one died of starvation under capitalism - even during the greatest recessions. At its best, a shit ton of people starved to death in the cold under communism.

              Is capitalism perfect? Far from it. But it works. And God bless America 🇺🇲🫡