please, fandom is one of the worst sites on the internet
When the old school RuneScape wiki moved to a self hosted solution it was night and day the quality difference. I’d argue that OSRS (and probably regular RS) have some of the best wikis in gaming.
From what I’ve heard, the RS3 wiki was even better, but for sure both are fantastic. Prime examples of how wikis should work. They’re even fully integrated into the game.
The four horsemen of the video game Google search apocalypse are Fandom, IGN, Polygon, and GameRant
Fr. Recently the Satisfactory wiki moved off of fandom and it is already so much better. More wikis need to drop fandom.
But somehow fextralife is even worse.
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It used to be so decent, but man, it turned to crap. I hardly recognize what it once was.
I installed Firefox with uBlock Origin on Android primarily because fandom hosts the Forgotten Realms wiki and it’s intolerable.
Just whatever you do, do not use Google docs to share information that belongs to a wiki. That’s is by far the most annoying option and 100 times worse than just having to deal with a fandom wiki.
I agree, it’ll also make a mess out of your “shared tab” on your drive. Me opening a document from som random doesn’t mean that I want it to bury the documents that has been actively shared with me, from my wife for instance.
Fandom has been a pretty terrible experience for awhile now. I hope they find a better home.
They should move to Neocities
Good, Fandom’s wiki’s are garbage.
Looks like the add-supported-free-stuff business model really is collapsing.
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If ad companies would be paid according to customer conversion rate instead of how many ads they spam everywhere, it would collapse within a financial quarter.
Thinking that people support a brand or product that constantly annoys them is next-level stupid, but it’s their main strategy. Google’s conversion rate is less than 4% and instead of realizing that spamming trillions of ads on every site is causing that abysmal rate, they double down and get off to bigger “reach”.
Also, Google lied to customers of their TrueView ads and just presented people muted autoplay ads instead. Here’s an analysis about that.
https://adalytics.io/blog/invalid-google-video-partner-trueview-ads
tl;dr the only one benefitting from ads is Google.
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As aptly explained by writer Cory Doctorow:
Here is how platforms die: First, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.
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Unfortunately, for most technology startups there are exactly two ways to pay salaries to the developers: getting investors (which lead to the exact cycle that I explained earlier) or paywalling the site up the wazoo (which leads to the community being necessarily smaller than it could have been otherwise).
Use a hybrid system. Market up until a service reaches a certain size then have government step in as the nationalising buyer to hand over ownership to the company’s workers. A lot these services should be treated as utilities anyway, image hosting has gone through this cycle so many times I’ve lost count and imgur is on its way out too now. It’s a fucking image host, it hosts images. That kind of shit should be a simple public service. It’s a utility of the digital age. Don’t get me started on Amazon reaching a very obvious inevitable saturation point that is based on the size of any given population and the average consumer goods range of a country.
Of course I know this can’t work under capitalism, because the ideology of the capitalists will result in them intentionally fucking this up.
And even with no capitalism involved in the equation, how do we convince the government to get taxpayers to foot the bill for something as mundane as an image hosting service? Especially in an environment where even art and education are being severely restricted in cash flow due to them being “non-essential services”?
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Exactly this.
When a company can’t expand its market share anymore they will make the product cheaper, worse and more expensive.
For tech this means filling the product with bloat, upping the prices for consumers, and lowering their payouts to creators (subcontractors).
What’s wrong with Spotify?
Did I miss the reference to Spotify?
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I’m pleased to hear that they’re moving. Fandom’s had a monopoly on the community-created wiki space for far too long, and it’s had a dire effect on the usability of so many wikis. It’s like they’re trying to make their site everything but a easily usable resource for community wikis.
On a related note, I highly recommend the “Indie Wiki Buddy” extension for Chrome and Firefox. When non-Fandom/Fextralife wikis are available, it’ll direct you to those instead; and when they’re not, it’ll allow you to view the Fandom wiki through a much more usable mirror.
If this was available for FF on Android I would be a happy man. Thank you for your comment though. I installed on my laptop!
You can install any extension you want, but it’s a bit of a process. https://www.androidpolice.com/install-add-on-extension-mozilla-firefox-android/
Some other unofficial Firefox builds enable it too. I recommend Fennec on F-Droid, which has some minor privacy improvements and otherwise mirrors the release build, not the beta build.
Thanks! I’ll look into that!
Use android dev or a fork like Fennec, set your own addon collection, then install any addon on mobile by adding it to your collection. Bit more annoying than it should be, but once set up allmost as convenient as on desktop
What do you mean by “android dev”?
The developer test version.
I wanna say originally it was only “Firefox Nightly for Developers”, now “Firefox Beta for Testers” allows it too.
The old Minecraft Wiki was so great. I was pissed when I heard they got bought by Fandom…
Fandom is so utterly annoying with those unrelated videos. Really annoying website.
Going to Fandom is like visiting a annoying dying person because they hold the hidden information.
Stardew Valley did the right thing by self hosting a wiki, makes it both official and independent
Several have, including the old school RuneScape wiki!
Now there’s two, and one is far more content full
I’m an editor for a community wiki that moved off fandom a few years ago to Mireheze. When the recent discussion about Miraheze shutting down happened I briefly inquired about where we would migrate to, expressing my hope to not return to fandom, and was quite thouroghly assured that fandom is not somewhere that would even be considered returning to. I don’t think I’ve had a single positive experience on a fandom wiki ever, or at least not in over 8 years, with issues ranging from intrusive ads, to the comment section pop in making scrolling inconsistent, to even something as simple as it universally looking fucking ugly, I can’t wait for people to leave and am actively cheering on its slow death as a website.
fandom wikis half the time are trash and redundant
Fandom wikis are such bloated trash that I will always look elsewhere for info.
Fandom is a huge headache to even navigate, I couldn’t imagine what it’s like to maintain it
