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Putin is pretty anti-Russian.
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I don’t understand this whole cluster munitions move. It doesn’t look good for anyone involved. We should have just destroyed them and be done with it.
America has a stockpile of weapons they cannot sell to anyone and can’t really use anywhere, this is an opportunity to dispose of them in a relatively cheap manner.
Yeah, but the part I don’t get is Ukraine choosing to litter it’s country side and eastern cities with un-exploded submunitions. It will be massive and nasty clean up operation after wards. everyone time cluster munitions have been used anywhere it leads to both friendly fire and civilian casualties from lingering UXO submunitions.
Like I absolutely get why USA is offering, what I don’t get is Ukraine accepting instead of demanding different kind of munitions. Hopefully they stuck them in “last resort reserve, if all else runs out” and then after war they just blow them up in big pile in some artillery range.
Because
- Better a mined countryside than losing the war and
- The countryside is already full of mines and stuff anyway.
As to other munitions: First of all those aren’t exactly plentiful, secondly you’d also have to have the necessary hardware to have a similar effect on the battlefield. You can hook up a couple of PzH 2000, say, seven, put ordinary rounds in their barrels and tell them to all shoot say 10 rounds a particular area all 70 impacting at the same time (so that noone can take cover), or you can use one cluster round with a couple of duds in it. Ukraine doesn’t just have a couple of PzH 2000s standing idly around just waiting for an opportunity to imitate a much cheaper cluster round.
I’m not saying I agree with using these either but I heard on TV that the reason cluster munitions were being provided is because those are readily available and the weapons needed by Ukraine can’t be met without them at this time.
Why the fuck not? Is 800 billion dollars somehow not enough money to fight off an army that’s funded with less than a tenth of that?
Money is one thing. The speed of production is another
Ukraine can use whatever they like in Ukraine. If Russians don’t like it, they can go back to Russia.
I’m pretty sure it will be random civilians for the next few centuries after the war has ended that will be disliking it.
yeah sure, i’ll believe that.
“we wont use cluster bombs anymore…we wont use them any less either”
