• WhyIDie@kbin.social
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    had to dig in the article for the means of transmission between dogs and humans, and could only find it from an article linked inside there that mentions “The disease can spread to humans through canine reproductive fluids, but they can be treated with a long, strong course of antibiotics.”

    The article here also mentions “two people caught it this year from dogs”
    …oh. oh dear

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      reading further, after the knee-jerk:

      • “Of the two cases so far this year, one was in a person who tested positive after being admitted to hospital and the other was an asymptomatic staff member of a veterinary practice.”
      • “Only one named individual has previously tested positive – Wendy Hayes, of Stoke, who caught it from a pregnant foster dog she took in from Belarus last year.”

      half of my loss of faith in humanity from this is restored

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        yes sir! when I wanna be killed than it’s because of a freaking parasite and the reason I’m attracted to the piss of my cat!

        which very well could be a reason our ancestors where killed by bigger cats back in the old days, because that parasite altered their brain in some ways so they felt attracted to the smell of the cats just like mice nowadays do.

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    So will this be their next excuse to just kill all the dogs in the country? Rather than piecemeal banning one breed at a time?

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      Quite a bizarre conspiracy theory to have considering they aren’t even recommending killing the dogs, they say antibiotics solve the issue.

      They’re advocating having more thorough checks at the border, and improving testing as it currently results in 50% of cases being false positives.

      This disease is already widespread in some other parts of the world, there haven’t been widespread dog massacres there.

      And for that breed that is to be banned, tbh, that seems wise. The UK had an average of 3 lethal dog attacks per year in 2001-2021.

      That breed is a new import. In 2022 we had 10 lethal dog attacks, 9 of which were Bully XLs. In 2023, 100% of deaths so far (6 IIRC) have been from Bully XLs. Almost as if large, strong dogs specifically bred for aggressive tendencies and have the ability to overpower an adult male, with jaws that can break bones, will be aggressive and dangerous. Crazy I know.

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        Any dog can be trained to aggression, and several breeds can overpower an adult human male (since that seems to be your standard). Or don’t you have police dogs?

        Observation isn’t conspiracy, my friend. But it’s your country. Do with it what you will.

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          Ahhhh ok. I’ll just train a chihuahua to kill then. Easy peasy.

          Bit of a ludicrous comparison to bring up police dogs. Police dogs are trained and not owned by random people.

          It’s very much a conspiracy lmao, you’re saying that this existing disease is related to the banning of a dangerous dog breed and that it’s part of a slippery slope to the government banning dogs, in the country with probably the highest dog ownership rate in the world.

          And btw, we aren’t talking about training a dog to be aggressive - we’re talking about selectively breeding dogs to be aggressive. There’s a difference.

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            With respect, your excellency of avarice, training a chihuahua to kill is a bit like putting a stick of dynamite on a tactical nuclear warhead.

            (I’m only joking, I’ve met tons of chihuahuas who were wonderful.)

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      I’ll bite - what’s the conspiracy “observation” at play here? Importantly, who is behind this and why?

      Don’t tell me it’s big pussy.

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      Why is this down voted?

      It’s literally happened before. Recently australia killed all animals at shelters due to covid. China killed all pets in cities during covid. There are other examples before covid.

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        Because it’s stupid. The infection isn’t dangerous to humans, it’s anywhere from symptomless to cold-like symptoms. It’s not super contagious to humans, and even if it were it’s not dangerous.

        And the disease exists elsewhere in the world without causing big issues. It’s not a new disease, just new to the UK.

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          It’s an extremely unplausible scenario as it’s nothing like Covid and more like a flu except it basically can’t spread between humans.

          And now you’re trying to play off criticism of your take as some kind of nationalist defensiveness lol

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          Nah, it’s because the comment went from 1 to 100 really fast.

          This disease isn’t known to be airborne.

          This disease isn’t known to be untreatable. (Antibiotics FTW.)

          This disease isn’t known to cause death.

          This disease hasn’t lead to countless animals suffering in facilities underequipped to handle them. (Many people bought puppies to “help with loneliness” during covid, only to abandon them later, after they were all grown up.)

          This disease hasn’t shut down multiple cities or countries.

          This disease doesn’t threaten the food chain.

          This disease hasn’t lead governments to mandate the general public to wear PPE.

          This disease hasn’t helped overwhelm hospitals.

          Could you please explain why you think this will be the same as what happened in those places during covid? The scenarios are very different in multiple ways.