I don’t know how many times these people need to be told that more Bernie voters ended up voting for Hillary than Hillary voters voted for Obama in 08
They don’t care lol.
Luckily, this (and Bernie campaigning for Hillary in 2016) pretty much ends this conversation for all but a few weirdo holdouts. It never really caught on during the 2020 primary, which is when it would have mattered.
I know Enough Sanders Spam on Reddit has a post on their sidebar “debunking” this stat, they claim it only comes from one survey/poll and that they have data proving otherwise.
I’d say a subreddit railing against Sanders late in 2021 qualifies as a “weirdo holdout.” It didn’t land with most people, as evidenced by him leading the primary until the coordinated drop out/endorsement of Biden.
and Bernie campaigning for Hillary in 2016
Every time I’ve mentioned this, I’ve gotten the exact same reply: he was pretending to campaign for Hillary just to sell his book and earn money
Classic. It’s an unwinnable position, it’s entrenched in their identity as victims. Believing differently would shatter their reality.
Tangentially related: I’ve never sat down to do the research, but I remember for at least a period Bernie was out-campaigning Hillary on her behalf. Specifically, I remember Hillary disappeared in August (aside from private events with wealthy donors), which is when the Parkinson’s rumours really took hold amongst chuds and Jimmy Dore. Of course, it was probably her lingering pneumonia that led to the beautiful moment of I FEEL GREAT on September the 11th.
