In video of the April 18 encounter, Frank Tyson can be seen lying motionless on the floor of a bar for more than 5 minutes before police check him for a pulse.
  • classic@fedia.io
    49·
    6 months ago

    At one point the officer jokes: “I’ve always wanted to be in a bar fight. I don’t know if this counts.”

    A few things to unpack, right there

  • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.worldEnglish
    381·
    6 months ago

    But what if one time they are lying about not being able to breathe and we let them up for a second and then it turns out they really could breathe but just lied… what about the horrible ramifications of that… we wouldn’t want them to have had a single moment of slight relief if it turns out they were just lying right?

    Probably better to just find out when they either die or not… who would be able to forgive us if we gave them a slight break and took their word for it that they were about to die.

      • Dkarma@lemmy.worldEnglish
        411·
        6 months ago

        Should see the video. 2 cops on his back until heart attack. Same as Floyd. Cop aggression.

      • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.worldEnglish
        111·
        6 months ago

        I think it’s more likely that he threw a clot from the pin and general insane time he was having, had a heart attack, and was ignored. Maybe a big pulmonary embolism, but the timeline more fits for a heart attack.

    • Opafi@feddit.deEnglish
      21·
      6 months ago

      The video is in the article. The response was “you’re fine” and a pat on the back. Can’t make that shit up.

    • meco03211@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      Good advice for a choking person. Performing the abdominal thrust on someone who could talk has the potential to get the obstruction stuck further and completely blocking their airway.

      Not good advice for someone possibly panicking that you are actively smothering.

      • Melkath@kbin.social
        3·
        6 months ago

        It’s almost like the militarized police force is tortured in a controlled setting as part of their training, so they torture citizens… who aren’t trained for torture and are not in a controlled setting.

    • ccunning@lemmy.worldEnglish
      34·
      6 months ago

      he suffocated under his own body weight because he wasn’t fit enough to be laid on his stomach

    • Dkarma@lemmy.worldEnglish
      312·
      6 months ago

      They restricted a man’s body until he died. Pretty simple case of murder.

    • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      272·
      6 months ago

      Looks to me like another extrajudicial murder by cops. More similar than different.

    • arvere@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      6 months ago

      the whole ethical discussion aside, is it even possible for someone to choke under their own body weight, or die if they lay on their stomach, if they aren’t terminally obese or something like that?

      legitimately curious, as people are throwing this around like it was normal… is this an American thing?

      • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafeEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Yes. Fortunately, the human body has a lot of reflexive defenses against it, so the only way it could happen is if you were forced into the situation against all struggles.