Some are spending life savings to stay out of the war, but such actions are seen as treasonous by those already fighting
  • Jeena@jemmy.jeena.netEnglish
    16·
    1 year ago

    I’m all for Ukraine winning the war defending their borders but I totally get it. You have only one life, but there are over 190 countries. Not everyone is so attached to a specific country, I know I’m not. Even if you’re winning, there are still so many humans dying. People are spending life savings for bogus medical treatment to avoid dying prematurely, why would we not expect people spending life savings to avoid dying prematurely in a war?

    • MataVatnik@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      1 year ago

      Also the war is brutal and a lot of the casualties from Ukraine are generally self censored. Conscripts are mostly put in with territorial defense forces which get the shitty gear and little training and they are mainly used to hold the front line and generally don’t have many options if they Russians decide to attack their fortifications.

  • yokonzo@lemmy.worldEnglish
    83·
    1 year ago

    Yeah even though I’m 100% on ukraines side, fuck the draft, it’s unethical

    • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
      52·
      1 year ago

      I’m sure they would prefer a volunteer army. But they likely see a draft as a superior option to being subject to annexation and Russian tyranny.

      • Narrrz@kbin.social
        4·
        1 year ago

        and these people see draft dodging as a superior iron to being sent to die on the front lines.

        • Cleverdawny@lemm.eeEnglish
          43·
          1 year ago

          I think we all get that. But it’s not them being ethical, avoiding the draft. It’s cowardice.

          Understandable cowardice, of course. Can’t say I would do any different.

  • Chickenstalker@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    1 year ago

    Maybe ukies should consider alternative service for pacifists etc. Maybe as ambulance corps, civil defence, munitions factory workers, mining, farming, anything that supports the war effort. After giving such option and they still shirk, then take legal action.

  • lukzak@lemmy.mlEnglish
    3·
    1 year ago

    It says that they are sent to Britain to be trained. Unless they’re being flown in to some military complex directly, why wouldn’t they just run away once they’ve cleared immigration in the UK? Would British police arrest them even if they haven’t broken any laws in the UK? Do Ukrainian army personnel have authorization to capture them and arrest them even on British soil?