• Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    Yes, yes. So first it was, “theyee not doing anything!” now its, “its too late to do anything, get fucked.”

    Eugh. More, “nothing can be good” bullshit.

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            3 months ago

            How is it a strawman? The goal of genocide is to kill/remove all the people. You claimed the house is already burned down, very clearly implying that there is no one left to kill or no one who can go back.

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              3 months ago

              It’s a strawman because you’re ascribing a position that I haven’t taken to me in an effort to make it seems like my argument has less merit than it actually does. That’s the definition of a strawman and that’s what you did.

              You claimed the house is already burned down

              Meaning that irreparable catastrophe has already occurred. Catastrophe that could have been avoided if not for the delayed reaction of her and other leading US politicians

              very clearly implying that there is no one left to kill or no one who can go back.

              Only to the most literal of bad faith interpretations. Don’t be fatuous, Jeffrey.

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                3 months ago

                Oh, so the analogy is just terrible. The house hasn’t burned down, it’s just the fire looks like it’s about to spread out of the garage, and you’re saying its too late because it irreparable damage has already been done.

                What the other poster is saying is that we can still save the rest of the house.

                Although it should be clear that if you say the house has burned down, that means all of it and not just a small part.

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        3 months ago

        Oof, lemme just tell the living Gazans dont matter bc the same lemmy tankies as ever dont find them useful to their narrative if we help em. 😪

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          That’s nowhere near what I said and you know it.

          Strawmen and baselessly accusing anti-authoritarian pacifists of being tankies won’t convince anyone that waiting 164 days to call for an end to a genocide is in any way acceptable.

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            3 months ago

            Most politicians will play it safe and stick with the most popular opinion for their voter base, or just stay silent.

            Sanders, AOC and the protesters helped to turn the tide, which is the reason some politicians speak out now. Those new voices will continue to change public opinion, force others to speak out and apply more pressure.

            You rather want this not to happen?
            I thought, getting people and politicians to agree that Israel needs to be stopped was the goal?

            And why would it be “too late” while Palestinians are still dying?

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          3 months ago

          They don’t seem to matter to their elected leaders, otherwise this all would have ended in October.

          They’re people, it’s fucked seeing them being used as human shields and political pawns.

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    3 months ago

    Not done yet, still more rockets being fired and hostages being held. Would be good if they both listened to the UN, released the hostages and got the food flowing though.