I’ve got a 2nd hand RX 6800 XT about 3 months ago and immediately had to repaste it as the thermals went well above 100C even at 255W. I used a new tube of MX4 which I kept as a backup and the temp went down significantly for about 2 weeks but then hot spot started to creep up until the difference between GPU Temp and TJ Max was 30C+ at times and with my OC at 300W it was often hitting 105C-109C on TJ Max in Time Spy (but even in games the hotspot would sometimes randomly jump to over 100C even if the game was using 200W).
So my theory was that there is a thermal paste pump-out due to thermal cycling which would explain why the temp was going up so fast after repaste but it took me until now to try the Carbonaut pad which I assumed could fix the issue.
I’ve used Time Spy GPU Test2 on 5 loops to get these results for comparison. GPU was set to 300W and 2600MHz at stock 1150mV. GPU fan speed fixed with side panel on the case as well.
I’ve started in the morning so room temp went only up until I’ve got all my results which means that the pad results are slightly better than what I’ve measured.
After replacing the paste with a pad the TJ Max did go down by about 6C-9C and I was only hitting about 100C at most BUT the core went up significantly by almost 20C from around 78C to 95C.
This was definitely disappointing as this affected the GPU clocks quite significantly and resulted in around 250MHz drop.
But because the hotspot went down this made me think that there just must be insufficient contact or cooler pressure so I was able to find some rubber washers or O-rings or whatever those are in a garage and I took off the retention plate and installed them. I tried to screw the plate back on as evenly as possible with just a normal screw driver and I hoped I wont crack the die by using too much pressure.
Results are absolutely stellar as I’ve got almost 20C drop on hot spot vs paste (around 9C improvement vs pad without washers) which makes my Time Spy max out at 91C on hot spot. Also the GPU temp went down by more than 20C vs pad without washers and around 5C lower than vs paste to around 73C in Time Spy.
So all in all I’m quite happy with the results. Washers probably did the most as I think doing washers + paste would get me similar results or maybe even better but I’m not going to try.
If you decide to go for the pad I recommend to get larger than 32x32mm one as I did as it’s just big enough with almost no room for error if it moves during installation.
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When I bought my reference 6800XT, the temps were horrible. The regular core temps weren’t too bad, high 70s to mid 80s, but hotspot was constantly in the low 100s. Mem temps were about the same.
I had good airflow, and a cool house. Checked all the torques on the board, everything seemed fine. I finally went watercooling, and the card cooled down so much it was unbelievable. I could run 3dMark on a constant loop, and never even crack 50 degrees. Fur mark for an hour, never above 44 degrees and this was on a single 360 rad.
However, temps crept up by 10 degrees over time. Paste pump out happened. Tried a different paste same thing happened a couple months later.
Finally tried Gelid GC Extreme, and it has stayed the course. I think the coolers on the reference cards are just bad, and when you add in thermal cycling, it’s a bad time. I found it especially suspect that the 7900 XTX reference boards had major vapor chamber problems. I wonder if there wasn’t a problem a while in the making.
I was contemplating going water cooling as well but I just decided that it’s not worth it. Maybe if the card was not suffering from such a bad coil whine I would do it but at this point it’s just a waste of time for me. I’ve run GTX 1080ti with just a 120mm AIO and XOC BIOS at 400W and it was able to cool it but dumping that much heat into the room was unbearable during summer.
Also my card is the Sapphire Pulse so no reference design but the contact of the cooler was about as bad as on reference. Or the GPU die is just shaped in such way that it does not allow for a good contact without enough pressure.
As long as you have something that works for you, that’s all that matters. I have a 7900 XTX now, and I’m watercooling it only because I already had everything except the block. It runs cool on air.
And I agree, watercooling is almost never worth it. I love the hobby, so I stick with it, but I don’t generally recommend it. It is an incredible amount of work and money.
Could it be a bent pcb? I recall Northridge Fix has a video about a bent pcb causing uneven contact and large average / Hotspot deltas. Brave fix thou!
From how the paste was spread I’d say that it’s both cooler plate and GPU die being shaped weirdly and making poor contact in some places.
Is hot spot indicating the hottest spot on the die or on the whole card?
It’s basically the hottest spot reported by a sensor. There are multiple sensors spread across the die. GPU Temp is the indication of how hot the whole die runs on avg.
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