• stoy@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    In an age of ICBMs with MIRVs, how relevant is it to station nukes close to their possible targets?

    EDIT: Come on, this is a genuine question, has missile defence technology become good enough that it can defend against a missile with MIRVs launched from the other side of the world but not against those launched from a closer country?

    • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      5 months ago

      There are two things at play here.

      First, flight time is a thing. ICBM flight time is about half an orbital period. Launching from closer shortens that a lot. There are cases where this is important, but that’s not the likely issue here.

      What I think is going on here is that we’re talking about relatively small bombs (as far as nuclear weapons go) launched or dropped from airplanes. There are similar setups all over central and southern Europe, for example at Aviano in Italy and Incirlik in Turkey. I’m not exactly certain what their propose is in current NATO doctrine, but in the Cold War they were intended to counter massed armor formations (ie. Tank assaults) from the eastern block. For that mission you need precise targeting of moving targets, which could not be done with 1970 era inertial guidance. Hence, planes.

      A lot of things have happened in Europe over the past few years, and it’s not unreasonable to plan for scenarios where you have to fight off a tank assault on say Poland or Estonia. Why the UK instead of further east? Good question. It might be political expediency over tactical considerations.

      Personally I think I’d be livid if I were the UK. Participating in US nuclear sharing arrangements makes a mockery of their already borderline credible independent deterrent. If you are a serious nuclear weapon state, you perform this mission with your own bombs on your own planes.

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        5 months ago

        Interesting, thank you, it seems like this subject is something I need more up to date info about, I’ll have to do some reading later!

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          5 months ago

          Personally, i’d recommend Perun’s excellent video on the topic of your curious on the present state of nuclear deterrence, though it is several months old at this point.

  • Oderus@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The UK has like 200 nukes. Is that not enough to wipe out Russia? I thought it was.

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    5 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The US is planning to station nuclear weapons in the UK for the first time in 15 years amid a growing threat from Russia, according to a report.

    A Ministry of Defence spokesperson said: “It remains a longstanding UK and Nato policy to neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons at a given location.”

    Calls have recently come from senior figures on both sides of the Atlantic for the UK to be prepared in case of a potential war between Nato forces and Russia.

    Earlier this week, Gen Sir Patrick Sanders, the outgoing head of the British army, said its 74,000-strong ranks need to be bolstered by at least 45,000 reservists and citizens in order to be better readied for possible conflict.

    Carlos Del Toro, the US navy secretary, has urged the UK to “reassess” the size of its armed forces given “the threats that exist today”.

    Downing Street defended the UK government’s spending on defence, saying Britain had been Washington’s “partner of choice” in its strikes against Houthi rebels in the Red Sea because of its “military strength”.


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