Just go vegan. This is horrible for everyone involved.
Honestly even if we just cut out pork…this animal is as smart as dogs and just as social and loving.
Cows are social and loving, too. And don’t get me started on octopodes!
I’m far from vegetarian but I’ve completely stopped eating octopus. Those things are freaky smart and honestly most people/restaurants can’t cook them well enough to even have a flimsy selfish justification for eating them.
I gotta respect anybody using the proper pluralization.
Like this?
That works great as an adjective. Don’t be such an octopussy.
Pigs definitely are and you shouldn’t eat them, but intelligence is a weird way to judge whether a life deserves consideration.
The only pertinent question is surely if they suffer.
I agree, we should start eating dogs.
As an addition Just make sure we are leaving out the slavery sourced goods as well like avacodos and almond milk. Stop eating chocolate. Real Vanilla is completely off limits.
Cause there’s no point in virtue signalling if your not going all the way.
Yeah, never change or improve unless you can be perfect all the time!
It’s crazy how defensive people get when cutting meat is suggested. Don’t even get me started on when the Internet collectively learned the phrase “virtue signalling”. Fuck me running.
Well I mean if you’re actually going to start trying to be “good” people you might as well actually be good people on all fronts not just the ones you’re prepared for.
Otherwise you’re just a series of half measures. Don’t be just part of something be all of it.
And don’t kid yourself no one wants to f*** you
No ethical consumption under capitalism, so grow your own or starve I guess.
I’d be down for that, personally. I like the thickness of soy milk more, and according to this test, real vanilla is pretty overrated.
Sorry pal, I have to say that unless you’re talking about the real thing that you can get in Asia, which is an amazing hot and creamy breakfast drink, soy milk is foul.
Though almond milk is basically a fraud, mostly water and hardly any almonds. And it tastes like it, so I can see how you rated it below soy milk, even if soy milk is awful.
If I must settle for fake milk, oat milk is where it’s at. It doesn’t have any weird off flavours, decent caloric content and is decently thick and rich. Probably the most environmentally friendly milk substitute as well because yeah, it’s just oats.
We take it camping sometimes, as it handles the lack of refrigeration a lot better than the real thing.
Thankfully there’s multiple milks for different tastes :P
Personally I find almond milk too watery, but the taste is fine. Oat milk is too paste-y, and I’m not a big fan of the flavor or the carb content. Soy milk, especially vanilla flavored, can be superb from the right brand (some are most certainly worse than others). I also like how protein rich soy milk is, it’s nearly comparable to cow milk.
Hah, maybe I was a little harsh. There has been a lot of development that went into it since the last time I tried it (long ago) and yes, there’s something for everyone out there.
I just remembered the first time I tried it in my youth, when milk substitutes were new and exotic. Nasty! Then when I visited Taiwan, I was convinced that soy milk was delicious and not disgusting, and tried it. Asian soy milk is a precursor to tofu just like real milk is a precursor to cheese, and nothing like the product sold in North America. It’s more like a hot bean soup, and I love beans. Every day for breakfast with a Chinese long donut
When I got back home, I thought maybe soy milk was worth another shot. With the delicious Asian product for comparison, the watery taste of “White people soy milk” as my girlfriend described it was like a slap in the face and solidified a lifetime hatred for the product ;)
I do agree with you on the protein content as far as milk substitutes go. But I lift weights and I add whey powder to whole milk, so I’ll only ever consider milk substitutes to be exactly that, substitutes. There was a time in my life when I drank an entire gallon a day, resulting in adding 30 pounds to my frame permanently. Milk is amazing but my older guts definitely could not pull that off now. And I think my body would turn it into fat…
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I don’t have time to watch this video but… it seems like a dubious claim.
Feed on some specific farm carelessly contaminated with plastic? sure.
Feeding pigs plastic as a cost cutting measure? Non-sensical.
It doesn’t take a veterinarian to deduce that feeding livestock plastic will harm your profitability.
I also didn’t watch this video here but saw videos earlier where livestock was fed with expired food that supermarkets weren’t able to sell in time. All kinds of products like vegetables, bread, cake, yogurt etc. were delivered to the farmers directly or to intermediate companies. In many cases the food was still in its packaging, e.g. a plastic bag around a loaf of bread. But to keep costs low everything just went into a huge shredder and was then fed to the animals. Including lots of micro (and not so micro) plastics.
So the cost cutting is not about “explicitly feeding plastics as a cheap filler” but rather “accepting to have plastics in the food in favor of lower sorting costs”.
In the documentary I watched this was described a common practice all over Europe.
Fucking clown world
Thank you. The motivation for them to do this is clear, with this context. Horrible.
They’re not specifically feeding them plastic only, he’s showing how any waste food (old potatos, old bread, chips, etc) that comes to be processed does not have the plastic bags removed before going into a grinder to become feed.
He actually shows how it’s explicitly allowed in his state regulations, likely approved due to the efforts of an agribusiness lobbyist. I suspect that any negative effects to the pigs is not enough to effect the end product/bottom line, or doesn’t manifest within the timeframe of a viable animal for slaughter.
the microplastics and hormone effects will definitely show up in the meat. Plastic is already in almost everything we eat and drink but this is probably much more concentrated and unhealthy than most other sources that humans consume.
According to this post/study, there definitely is microplastic in the meat, though less than I would’ve thought (it’s possible the meat tested was from a state that doesn’t allow plastic being in the feed).
Thanks for the link, this is a massively underreported issue. Every time i remember how bad the situation is (immune system issues, infertility rates, pregnancy issues, etc) i kinda freak out until i forget about it again so i can stay sane…
this got me thinking as well.
I think the whole garbage feeding law (at least in US, where the video originated) is made to control disease transmission – but not microplastics, which is a relatively new discovery.
Still up to the consumer to protect themselves while there’s no regulation tackling this.
Capitalist innovation be like…
