Linux does give every application time to shut down correctly, but unlike windows, it won’t wait for ages until every process is down. Linux WILL shut down in a certain timeframe, whereas windows waits for years if necessary. In my old job, we all had to use windows and I had times where I clicked shut down, turned off my monitor, grabbed my stuff, left and in the next morning, the PC was still on because Notepad refused to just close lmao.
That is what infuriates me so much. Instead of just killing the process after 5 mins of waiting it just cancels the shutdown. Like fuck off with that shit.
Depending on the use case, that can be a good thing or a bad thing
Shouldn’t be the default though.
Ha, you want choice in how your OS functions?
Here, have another bing toolbar for your settings app.Man I hope next time I press windows and type an application by name, or by executable.exe I get a spinning icon then a stack of unrelated web results that are probably malware.
I don’t want my IDE with hours of work to just shut down forcibly.
Then you might not want windows cause Windows forces updates on you whether you want them or not and break things. Linux will happily wait for you to forget for so long it breaks because the target API doesn’t accept your old ass code anymore. At least in Linux as long as I don’t forget I’m good. I sometimes forget
TBF there are ways to completely disable updates in Windows (I just did in my VM because it should literally only run 3 programs which are not working with wine)
then surely you would not have asked your OS to shutdown? linux does what you ask
I should probably sigterm instead of sigkill, but it sounds far less cool
I’ve never seen anything graceful in windows
“Mmm, that didn’t work, try again later I guess? Just stop bothering me with your petty needs and get back to generating monetizable data that I can harvest.”
Windows: I refuse to shut down because of a, b , c
Me: But I already clos. . .
Windows: No you didnt’t, stop lying!
Me : Well, I pressed the X and the window dissappeared.
Windows: Lol, noob. Did you never even heard of a task managers?
windows: “Can’t shut down because of the ‘Cant shut down’ notice”
me: “wait…”
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“this application is preventing you from shutting down. Go back and save your work: shut down, cancel”
Clicks cancel
Windows: shutting down!
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If your app doesn’t respond to SIGTERM gracefully, you need to fix your app. The system did its job as documented.
Windows: Has a complex and graceful shutdown process to make sure programs never close if there’s a problem with them and your computer just stalls on shutdown until you hold down the power button and completely void out the purpose of the graceful shutdown.
Ever tell a pc to shut down and come after work and it’s still waiting for click a box.
Ever? Too many times. When I think I’ve told Windows Update “yes, do all the shit, yes it’s fine, yes I’m sure, yes you can do it, yes I really want you to do it, yes I’m sure I really want you to, yes I’m sure I’m sure, yes for the umpteenth fucking time” and switched off my monitor to go home for the weekend, the number of times I’ve come in on a Monday morning just to find I have to click “yes” yet again then have to sit there watching it grind out its updates.
I just wish they’d add a checkbox, off by default, that says “yes you can do it all, just stop asking stupid fucking questions” that I can click and go home. But for some reason Microwank insist I have to sit there watching that fucking update percentage creep up then endlessly sit at “100% all is done, please wait” for no reason whatsoever.
Oh yeah and there always seem to be way more reboots needed when BitLocker is active. I’m sure 1 reboot is the norm with occasional 2’s. But with BL it’s usually 5-6 reboots.
I used to work at a place where MS would raise tickets with us and I always wanted to give them the WU treatment. But professionalism always got in the way of “This ticket is 100% complete, you must close and reopen it to continue”.
If your code can’t handle a sig9 then your code is weak
sig 9 or sig 9mm - that’s the question here
kill $SIGSAUER
kill commands make one feel like a Caesar
et tu, Sudo?
Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out 🤣
Lol yes. Killall makes one feel like a god.
Closing correctly means the program stops NOW
$ kill -L 1) SIGHUP 2) SIGINT 3) SIGQUIT 4) SIGILL 5) SIGTRAP 6) SIGABRT 7) SIGBUS 8) SIGFPE 9) SIGKILL 10) SIGUSR1 11) SIGSEGV 12) SIGUSR2 13) SIGPIPE 14) SIGALRM 15) SIGTERM 16) SIGSTKFLT 17) SIGCHLD 18) SIGCONT 19) SIGSTOP 20) SIGTSTP 21) SIGTTIN 22) SIGTTOU 23) SIGURG 24) SIGXCPU 25) SIGXFSZ 26) SIGVTALRM 27) SIGPROF 28) SIGWINCH 29) SIGIO 30) SIGPWR 31) SIGSYS 34) SIGRTMIN 35) SIGRTMIN+1 36) SIGRTMIN+2 37) SIGRTMIN+3 38) SIGRTMIN+4 39) SIGRTMIN+5 40) SIGRTMIN+6 41) SIGRTMIN+7 42) SIGRTMIN+8 43) SIGRTMIN+9 44) SIGRTMIN+10 45) SIGRTMIN+11 46) SIGRTMIN+12 47) SIGRTMIN+13 48) SIGRTMIN+14 49) SIGRTMIN+15 50) SIGRTMAX-14 51) SIGRTMAX-13 52) SIGRTMAX-12 53) SIGRTMAX-11 54) SIGRTMAX-10 55) SIGRTMAX-9 56) SIGRTMAX-8 57) SIGRTMAX-7 58) SIGRTMAX-6 59) SIGRTMAX-5 60) SIGRTMAX-4 61) SIGRTMAX-3 62) SIGRTMAX-2 63) SIGRTMAX-1 64) SIGRTMAXSo does kill -4 just make the program a bit poorly?
It starts playing Beastie Boys over PC speaker
Only if you have installed the correct license file.
SIGILL P1990 Core Illegal Instruction
Linux is actually great if you need to implement graceful shutdown with signals – I love it all around :)))
sudo reboot, that way the gui gets to die in a fire, too!
one of my favourite things when i switched to linux first was using the meta+Q hotkey to shutdown a program (this was with PopOS i think). with windows there is alt+F4 but some programs only use shift+alt+F4 which makes it a lot more confusing. on top of all that if youre using a laptop then its another keypress for the Fn key in some cases
and this how I deleted the file I edited the entire day:
shutdown -h now. No go to bed NOW!“no loose ends”
Dead processes make no log entries
REISUB. I own you machine, and you will do as I say. Reboot.
KILL KILL KILL
