Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas, on Sunday appeared to defend migrants by claiming the United States needs them to harvest cotton.

Socdem moment he-admit-it

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    107·
    2 days ago

    I’m not on some identity politics shit but this exact type of rhetoric I loathe to hear from other black people. There is no need to hoist our historical/economic/cultural wounds on to someone else. That’s vile and disrespectful to both the target of this as well as other black people.

    I hate this shit, but to illustrate my point she’s (and other people like her black or otherwise) saying “we don’t want to get rid of the plantation, or even to heal other get away from this place, we just want to be the overseer. Maybe have a more ergonomic handle on whip too, and a better saddle while you’re at it”. It’s so fuckin’ cowardly and plainly ignorant.

    Democrats don’t want a better world they want to be at the helm of the “make everything suck more” machine. They want to maintain the status quo but just want a slightly more advantageous position in it.

    The average democrat is so confidently stupid and carry an equal parts cringe and utterly unearned sense of superiority

    • Lemmygradwontallowme [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      48·
      2 days ago

      I hate this shit, but to illustrate my point she’s (and other people like her black or otherwise) saying “we don’t want to get rid of the plantation, or even to heal other get away from this place, we just want to be the overseer. Maybe have a more ergonomic handle on whip too, and a better saddle while you’re at it”.

      Democrats don’t want a better world they want to be at the helm of the “make everything suck more” machine. They want to maintain the status quo but just want a slightly more advantageous position in it.

      Your anger is justified for tis’ not simply idpol. It’s the collaborator role and mentality that this lady plays, that has seeped now into immigrant life-or-death matters.

    • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      103·
      2 days ago

      Upvote, cause in principle you make the right argument and I think Jasmine is tone deaf to use cotton picking as an example.

      But let’s be honest. Americans don’t want to perform low paid heavy manual labour.

      They aren’t going to be manufacturing garments in factories or picking peaches from the fields any time soon.

      So I have to credit her for making a good argument, even if she chose the wrong example.

      • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        51·
        2 days ago

        I mean ostensibly you’re right, Americans absolutely cannot and will not do low paid heavy manual labour. I think the point is that it’s not ridiculous to expect somebody supposedly on “the Left” to make the leap that maybe nobody should be doing low paid heavy manual labour. This is just classic socdem labour aristocracy spoils of empire type shit, that it’s fine slave labour happens, just not here.

        • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          151·
          2 days ago

          Well yes, I 100% agree.

          It is in fact possible to have well paid agricultural labour. My own family has done it. It’s still hard labour, but it doesn’t have to be low paid.

          But at the risk of sounding like a neoliberal, I don’t think it is wrong that middle class Americans, who are rich by Latin-American standards, have the opportunity to get their kids an education so that they can become UX designers, lawyers and doctors.

          The same happened in my family, and we don’t have anyone doing farm labour in my generation.

          And I therefore also don’t think it is morally wrong that poor Latin-Americans try and earn better wages so that they, too, can provide their kids the same opportunities.

          Just stop the exploitation. Give them an honest wage and let them enjoy the fruits of their labour.

          • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
            25·
            2 days ago

            We’re arguing the same thing I think. Hard work should be compensated with appropriate wages and living conditions, manual labourer or office worker or whoever. Ideally nobody should work, but until we build that work this is the one we’ve got. Labour is always morally “wrong” under capitalism because it is definitionally exploitative.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        17·
        2 days ago

        This may not be glamorous work, but this is all essential labor. We need food to survive. We need clothes to survive (in most climates 🤔), and even in some solarpunk utopia, we would need factories to build things like looms, tractors, harvesters, and whatever other machinery is necessary to automate this labor. With the pressing climate crisis, we also have a genuine cause to transition to more local and direct supply chains for a lot of purposes. We have the choice either to find a way to make this labor rewarding, or to consign it to some underclass.

        Under capitalism, we choose the latter, and then we have liberal politicians like this justifying immigration not as a right to seek greener pastures, but in terms of a cost/benefit analysis for the economy. While the economic bean-counting does make more sense in practical and economic terms than an arbitrary reign of terror against the workers who keep the food flowing to our grocery stores, there is nothing liberatory about it. It is still a regime which cultivates a “reserve army of labor” which it uses the threat of deportation against to suppress the wages and rights of all workers, with the fig leaf that coffee or bananas might cost a little bit less. They are not upset by the violence of border militarism or the trade war. They are only upset that it is being used in an arbitrary, capricious, and self-defeating manner, which is why they are out here scoring cheap rhetorical points while advocating nothing more than a return to the status quo ante. They have no interest in pulling on the thread of why these jobs, which are essential for us to survive, are so alienating in the fist place.

    • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      82·
      2 days ago

      i did about 4-5 years full time as a young idealist. i was underpaid, ripped off, exploited, and did lots of dangerous shit. got real lucky to not be injured. it still head and shoulders above what happens to the trafficked and adjacent migrant workers brought in by brokers and contract housed. nobody assaulted me, nobody could take away my documents or steal personal belongings from me with impunity with a phone call to La Migra. labor aristocracy compared to the prison work gangs and furlough programs of angola.

      but just from the long hours in the heat for absolutely dogshit pay, all that liberal indoctrination against political, mob violence i grew up immersed in, oozed from my pores and evaporated away in the oppressive south georgia sunshine.

      i realized in my bones the people running this system deserve everything waiting for them.

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zipEnglish
      35·
      2 days ago

      We should make it so you gotta have a 4 years work experience before going to college or getting any “grown-up” job, with at least one year in retail, one in food service, one in labor, and one in hospitality.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      45·
      2 days ago

      Liberals’ problem with the Holocaust isn’t that it was the fucking Holocaust. Their problem is concentration camp SS guards didn’t get sensitivity training seminars.

  • vegeta1 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    37·
    2 days ago

    Libs will brag about “Gorbachev knew the cold war was lost when he saw American shelves” go on about end of history and then repeat shit like this without shame. No wonder history in their schools is being rewritten so easily

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    43·
    2 days ago

    I’ve maintained the establishment dems playbook has moved on from performative identity politics to identity schadenfreude, which now defines the anti-immigration shift of the dems

    The point is to compartmentalize and silo whole demographics off from one another using crude divide and conquer rhetoric for the sake of two goals; first to appeal to white American suburbanites and their perennial dislike for anyone with a skintone darker than uncooked pizza dough (the Schumer strategy but explicitly racialized) and second to isolate the organizationally minded members of any given demographic by anchoring them to the belief that only their own demographics can be viable targets of organizing; blasting indirect divisive rhetoric like “Let THEM pick cotton, instead” is only the most visible of the tactics being used. It’s a total non-starter in terms of fostering solidarity and the overall point is to create resentment to forestall organizing by left orgs

    This rhetorical strategy is born right out of the anti-Palestine hysteria of the DNC, while Sanders/AOC sheepdog desperate radicals back into the Democratic Party, this trap is what’s waiting for them

  • sodium_nitride [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    34·
    2 days ago

    “Jasmine Crockett said she wants illegal immigrants to pick her cotton and NO ONE from the left is gonna check her?” women’s sports activist Riley Gaines asked. “Wild times we’re living in.”

    Color me shocked! The “women’s sports activist” is actually an anti-trans hack. I swear these journalist scumbag trash think they can slip by anything from under our noses.

    “I’m really trying to grasp her logic,” Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, added. “And yet .” President Donald Trump acknowledged Rep. Crockett during remarks at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner Tuesday. “The Democrats have taken a lot of beatings, they’ve lost their confidence,” he said. “They’ve gone crazy. How about this new one they have, their new star Crockett? Are they serious about that?” “If that’s their new star they’re in serious trouble,” he added.

    Behold! The consequences of having 0 ideological discipline for even the mildest milquetoast progressivism (forget DiaMat)! SocDems getting repeated outflanked by fascists from the left.

    Rep. Crockett last month also faced backlash for referring to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, who uses a wheelchair, as “Governor Hot Wheels.”

    Appropriate last name for this person. She truly is fried. Someone should photoshop her head onto the standing croquette in this pciture. Hell, I’ll do it (tomorrow maybe).