As investment, I bought this, instead of stocks. Any ideas on what to do with it?
Location:
- 75km (1hr) to a big international airport. Airport has direct flights to most EU capitals (2-4hr flights)
- 50km to city center
- 25km from nearest large residential area (500,000+ population)
- 5km from massive organized industrial area (government supports factories here)
- 35km from a rich residential area
- 1km away from the village (its old and mostly depopulated) and animal husbandry area
Access:
- There is public transportation, but one has to walk 1.5km after leaving the bus.
- There is no direct road access to the land. You have to walk like 200m after leaving your car.
- 1km road to here is non-asphalt and its a bit bumpy ride. When it rains, it gets bad here. It rains rarely
It is quite peaceful and quiet there. You can hear interesting bird sounds sometimes. You see no buildings, no cars and no humans anywhere near you when you’re there, which feels great imo. You notice the air quality after you leave your car. I personally absolutely would want to live here for a while
Ideas
- Trying to clarify this rn, but I think I can make $120-160/yr/decare from leasing the land to a farmer. Land is 25 decares
- “Unique co-living opportunity with vegan food & yoga sessions” In other words, remote work / digital nomad village for people who want to work REALLY remotely :) I’d have to arrange electricity (solar panels and powerbanks), internet, toilet, shower, water, tents, mattresses/pillows/sheets, food, drinking water. (Though I don’t know what people will do when they’re bored here? Any ideas? Meditation would get boring after some point)
- Sadly location isn’t touristic, but it is 1hr flight away from extremely touristic areas. One of those areas, a city, was the most visited city in the world a few years ago.
- I’ve met a few volunteers and they seemed quite willing to volunteer for whatever I decide to do here (if I do anything). For those unfamiliar: WWOOF and Workaway
Also- Any suggestions on where I should ask this question on the internet?
Build a large wall around the entire perimeter of the property.
Construct a tall stone tower in the middle of the property and paint it completely matt black.
Poison the land around the tower, so nothing, not even grass can grow.
Have packs of wild, feral dogs roam the property.
Dress in dark grey robes, and spend the rest of your days on the top of the tower, screaming obscenities at any passers-by, or shaking your fist angryly at the sky.
*Mount a fiery red spotlight at the top of the tower and move the beam randomly around the property in case of hobbits
Plant potatoes. Charge rich families to come out and harvest potatoes as a “total farm experience”. Sell them as a “rustic handgrown” crop.
Take the profit and buy a shit ton of meth and smoke until your heart explodes. Die with a smile as you escape late stage capitalism ✨️
And they would totally dig that shit up and call it an experience too. Do it.
Unfortunately though I think OP being an hour from an airport is gonna preclude tourists from being a financial factor in the area.
And there was so much meth to be had…
Good marketing can sort that out. You call the experience “authentic” and hire some attractive actors to do a couple photo shoots. Maybe add a shuttle and a little café like touristy vineyards do. And if you’re really good you can figure out a way to get the tourists to make meth for you. Say they have to bring certain ingredients with them, in addition to the crazy expensive entry fee.
💫Ascention💫
Sell it and remember that you first figure out what you want and then you buy the suitable land for it.
Start a cult
how
Marketing.
But first you need the idea. I’d say leftwing based religious science compatible apocalyptics is an untapped market. So basically make a bunker commune for societal collapse based on climate change and say all the current right wing politicians are demons accelerating it to bring upon hell on earth, and that oil is the devil’s blood.
Just off the top of my head that’s an idea.
There’s a significant number of Evangelicals who believe “Left Behind” is predictive of the future rather than being a super anti-semitic take on the Christian end times. Those idiots are accelerating the end times in hopes of being saved. You don’t need demons you already have these racist dummies.
If I knew how I’d already have a cult of my own. I hear being charismatic is a prerequisite
Plant some dang trees for starters, unless it’s only going to be land used for farming.
I vote for the dang trees. I like trees.
Ain’t nobody speaking for them dang trees so lend a hand and give em a voice.
Even then, dynamic agroforestry would be nice.
At least a wind block on the edges
Orchard farming, just add more tree
Plant something ASAP on that naked land or it will all be carried away by rain and wind.
Looks like someone was farming it before, OP should contact them first since they will know about the potential and problems. Maybe make a percentage-of-profits deal rather than a lease. The timing is good for a crop, if they move quickly.
Or rewild it with native plants. Maybe some young trees on the windward edge, and seeds for a meadow
Plant whatever everybody around this area is planting and ASAP. He can think about what to do next year, but not this one.
Yeah I was thinking, what’s in those big green silos? Probably a good option.
Sharecropping is so hot right now
For now? Lease as much of that land as you can. Cover crop the rest. You do not want bare, tilled soil sitting there for a year+ as you figure out bigger plans.
Lease as much of that land as you can.
Careful. The Lemmy mob is watching 👀
Ha. Anyone who’s farmed knows that ag leases are such a different scenario and very negotiable, especially if you are working with someone who wants to see the land in production or help young farmers etc. I WISH there had been more willing landlords when I was farming, it took me two years to find a place at all. Lemmings can hate once they’ve negotiated their own ag lease 👀 👩🏻🌾
Mmmmm local grown food and a landlord!? 🍽️ 🍽️ 🍽️
:P
Sell 1x1 foot squares of it in a vending machine at a random gas station in the middle of nowhere.
I would totally buy a gapcha token for one 1x1^2ft of inaccessible land from a vending machine.
This is why it’ll sell, people like obscure shit.
With a hidden rent fee.
Imagine you get like 200 of those bought at random across the land, and no more, then you try to do something with the remaining land!
Chess, except each piece is a bishop of the same color
What’s the legality of that land?
Where I live there’s no way a plot of land is suited for both farming and a Hotel.
If you build something in a place where residential/commercial buildings are not allowed you are in for a lot of troubles.
If the weather provides the safest bet for the most profit would probably be plant some easy trees or some plant that would not need a lot of caring, and just sell the products.
That for money. If I were you and I had money to throw I would just built a retire House for myself and collect my returns in peace of mind and health. But then again, residential buildings may not be allowed there.
Take a tupperware container set and test the water supplied to the field for PH value using a pack of litmus papers, then test the four corners and center of your field by scooping up some dirt, adding some water, and testing with litmus paper. Next, drain out the water and let it evaporate and look for signs of crystalization or condensates. Seal some of your soil samples to see if a healthy soil biome blooms in the sample, fungus and such.
A good healthy soil will have a strong biome. It and its water supply should be close to PH 6 to 7 for most tall grass and similar crops. There should be little to no saline in your soil, signs of that might indicate a brine pit forming in the water table near your land.
The most valuable single-season crops are crops that you can process yourself rather than selling to a granary. For examples: milled flour, corn byproducts, alcoholic ingredients, beets for sugar, bamboo, or switchgrass fermented into propionic acid biofuel. The major downside to being your own processor is that you’re also your own distributor which is very difficult.
Sometimes subsidies make unprofitable crops profitable, sometimes granaries or local brewers offer a good price for specific crops. Be sure to check the local market thoroughly.
Make sure to join up with any farming groups in your area and get insured for any farming you do. Also get somebody to provide some bee boxes.
No answer here, just wanted to say you inadvertently wrote one of the most interesting geolocation challenges I’ve seen.
Are you interested in helping with this challenge? :D
I might try finding it later but still no idea what to do with the field, sorry :p
Looks like Türkiye to me.
How close are you to high voltage transmission lines? This might be good for an commercial sized solar farm.
There’s a solar farm 1km away. I heard here it would require like $1m of investment and it pays for itself in 7 years but that’s above my pay grade AFAIK
I mean…
So do 1/10th of that. 100k pays for itself in 7 years? Still have 9/10 of your land to play with.
Just a thought. turnkey operations are geist for land ownership.
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YMMV. We’ve got a local solar farm & the operation has gone belly-up, changed hands twice. It’s got to be on its third investor/owner. Also depends on the quality of your build & your local weather; that solar field isn’t even fully operational yet. Got hit by a massive hail storm maybe almost 2 years ago, it had to have smashed a couple hundred solar panels.
If you’re interested in it, I’d be very careful. Insure everything. Ask everybody, people in the industry if possible.
There’s no natural disasters here but I’d have to have political connections and be rich if I wanted to do something like this without getting hurt in this country. I rather have less to lose and do something more modest
But out of curiosity, how would the investment numbers look like? They invest 1m on land and get 60% of the returns and I get 40% for the next 20 yeas for example?
I have no idea personally, I’m just telling you what I observe. And from what I’ve observed, it’s not this stupidly simple operation that anyone can do & it’s “basically a money printing machine”, as others on here are telling you.
If it doesn’t make dollars, it doesn’t make sense. As a general rule. That solar farm has gone under & sold ownership twice in idk 7-8 years.
I am pro-solar panel, and I was anti-wind turbine because the old fiberglass blade turbines filled with oil were dumb. But as I understand that technology, too, is improving & idk we’ll have to see how the new ones perform. Seems to me doing these things on a more commercial scale where you’re selling it to the grid can get a little fucky. There are reasons why it’s slowly taking off. There are reasons why people build, then sell, then the buyers sell. It’s probably a tricky endeavor with its own challenges.
You could get a smaller amount of panels at first, and later expand your solar farm. But I don’t know if that would keep the costs low enough to be manageable for you, as solar panels aren’t even the most expensive part of a solar farm. The biggest upfront investment would probably be all the electrical gear, e.g. the inverter, etc.
You could try getting a loan. Demand for renewable electricity is pretty high after all, banks might be willing to invest in something like this.Sounds like it’d be relatively easy to get a loan or investor with that kind of ROI. Seven years is nothing if it’s consistent and safe.
Is there a reason you’d have to go all-in, rather than starting with just a couple dozen panels first?
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Sex shack
I’d go to jail probably
Who or what are you planning on having sex with?
What happens on the farm, stays on the farm 🫡
That’s why you get your cult followers to give you all their money, so you can afford lawyers, they can’t, and the other followers can be readily coerced into placing social pressure on any dissent. This is about YOU, the work is about YOU, everything is about YOU and it always has been.
Tell you what not to do. I did the same and built an Rv park. Well so far that been a bust. They only work where they’re lots of people. Also farming is an idea but only for your personal use. Farming for profit is a no win game. Depending on where this is located will decide what you can do with it. Also zoning.
You could look into rewilding the land
as an investment
Edit: but, also:
Edible forest
